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Old 08-24-2007, 02:19 PM
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Looking to take winni tabs , 50mg a day for 6 weeks, have clen too. Is the winni going to cut me up / lose bf by itself or put on alittle muscle. Pct on this i hear diffrent storys about gyno and winni. Not looking to take any test, just the winni. What if i buy a test cream like androgel is that better or, just do the winni by itself...cause i know alot of guys prefer test with anything.

im 5' 6 , 160lbs 19%bf , want to lower the bf stay lean and put on a few more pounds of muscle on.. I jus thtink i should lower my bf before i put on muscle on top of all fat. i would love to see my abs again...to much beer, got the gut again...

looking for a quick fix jumpstart without needles...well for now, i might change my mind later..
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IMO with those stats you should loosw the weight with clen first....then take the winstrol...

WINSTROL does not burn fat...it will help you put on lbm and increase strength

you do not need test with winny, but most prefer it as a base...i have used windtrol alone with great results....

50 mgs of winny for 6 weeks will shut you down...so you will need pct...there are many pct protocals you can follow....if you do not want to try clomid and nolva... Primordial Performance they have transdermal pct products that do not have the toxic sides of clomid and nolva...
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yea you might want to try somethind different but hey - i did winny and prop a while back only about a 100mg a week (injectable) of the winn and 300 of the prop ... in about a month i dropped 12percent bodyfat ... went from a 22 to 10 .... it can happen - but juice isnt a miracle dude - but with some proper training and a nice clean diet with high meal frequency - you should see some fantastic results ... i loved it - even when i stopped i stayed 12percent ... im bulking now - and i still have some definition ... winstrol does work, you will keep a lot of your gains ... just takes a lot of intense work - if you want to drop a lot of bodyfat
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