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I am 16 5'10 and weigh about 150 lbs... It is mandetory I get bigger, but not a miracle speed. I am looking for an above average gain of about 2lbs p/wk...no water retention... Someone please guide me into the steroid world. I am about to purchase 100 5mg D-Bol 15-20mg p/day and want to keep my gains as long as I can and never gain the water retention. What should I continue with after my weak ass cycle besides an injectable? Do amino acids work well? Any good sources out there?
http://www.dianabol-team.com/index.html
is okay..its not a large selection, but they're reliable, located in europe :/
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I am 16 5'10 and weigh about 150 lbs... It is mandetory I get bigger, but not a miracle speed. I am looking for an above average gain of about 2lbs p/wk...no water retention... Someone please guide me into the steroid world. I am about to purchase 100 5mg D-Bol 15-20mg p/day and want to keep my gains as long as I can and never gain the water retention. What should I continue with after my weak ass cycle besides an injectable? Do amino acids work well? Any good sources out there?
http://www.dianabol-team.com/index.html
is okay..its not a large selection, but they're reliable, located in europe :/
little bro...where do i start?first your too fucking young for aas.wait till your done growing naturaly.you have many good years ahead of you,just eat.go to the training and nutrition forums,and read.dont even read about roids,you dont need them.well i really dont need a second,just read the first and listen to it.

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1. That web site is a ripoff and youd be lucky to get your stuff
2. d bol is mostly water gains and you would lose it all afterwards
3. YOU'RE TOO YOUNG save the money and buy some food, weight gainer, protein shakes
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And I thought I was too young for the juice.Jesus 16 I didn't even think about anything at that age.Damn that's crazy.You'll be big while on but after you won't.I wouldn't risk it bro.Sorry wait another 3-4 years.
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Why would you want to risk damaging vital organs and losing your bodys natural testosterone production to gain a few pounds at your age?

As the above bros have mentioned, eat right, train hard, sleep well and you'll be on your way without the AAS.

I'm on Testosterone replacement for the rest of my life at the age of 21. Mine was due to testicular cancer, not the abuse of steroids. Either way, it's not a pretty place here on the dark side. Wait till your growth plates have come to a halt.

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I'm on Testosterone replacement for the rest of my life at the age of 21. Mine was due to testicular cancer, not the abuse of steroids.
If you don't mind me asking, did you lose both of "the boys" or just one? I lost one of mine to testicular cancer about 3 years ago, and I've been wondering how much this might be holding back my gains. I know that building up naturally is extremely hard work, and I've been hardcore dedicated for over a year, but just haven't seen the gains I feel like I should. I haven't yet ventured into the AAS world, still researching and learning. I'm 30 and married, and I'm still planning out how to approach my wife with it.

The doctor that performed my surgery said that my remaining testicle would be able to compensate, and that I wouldn't need to worry about supplementing my test levels. But I never asked him if that still holds true for fairly intense weightlifting. What's your take on this, if you don't mind me asking?
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I am 16 5'10 and weigh about 150 lbs... It is mandetory I get bigger, but not a miracle speed. I am looking for an above average gain of about 2lbs p/wk...no water retention... Someone please guide me into the steroid world. I am about to purchase 100 5mg D-Bol 15-20mg p/day and want to keep my gains as long as I can and never gain the water retention. What should I continue with after my weak ass cycle besides an injectable? Do amino acids work well? Any good sources out there?
http://www.dianabol-team.com/index.html
is okay..its not a large selection, but they're reliable, located in europe :/
5'10"...150...get your gym membership yet?

Typical for your generation. Age 16...no knowledge...no discipline...no work-out ethic...

Why don't you take a little time out of your busy life and read past postings on here...go back as far as you can...and you'll see many of your questions have been answered repeatedly on here.

You do realize that your are taking synthetic hormones....AAS that will compete with...mess with..and sometimes screw your own hormone levels...

Not to mention...once you train on juice...every time you train juice-free you'll feel like you're wasting your time. They are not addicting...but damn, its like driving a turbo car...then having to take the ole statio wagon out...you'd rather be in the turbo car all the time...

Let's see...my $.02...eat tons....sleep tons...train strictly and smartly...don't over-train...use basic multi-joint movements...never sacrifice weight for form...and learn your body...

But...as you won't...take:

500mg test eneth a week for 12 weeks
35-40mg d-bol a day for weeks 1-4

Nolvadex daily
PCT after wards...
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Either the post or the poster is a joke...and a big one at that.
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WAY TOO YOUNG!!! your natural test alone is enough! even if you do aas regardless of what we say, you know nothing & you haven't researched enough and if you did you would know that you would be fine with eating right, getting alot of protein and rest and a good work ethic you should grow fine naturally!
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If you don't mind me asking, did you lose both of "the boys" or just one? I lost one of mine to testicular cancer about 3 years ago, and I've been wondering how much this might be holding back my gains. I know that building up naturally is extremely hard work, and I've been hardcore dedicated for over a year, but just haven't seen the gains I feel like I should. I haven't yet ventured into the AAS world, still researching and learning. I'm 30 and married, and I'm still planning out how to approach my wife with it.

The doctor that performed my surgery said that my remaining testicle would be able to compensate, and that I wouldn't need to worry about supplementing my test levels. But I never asked him if that still holds true for fairly intense weightlifting. What's your take on this, if you don't mind me asking?
In about 90% of cases, the remaining testicle does work into overdrive and compensate for its brothers loss.

In my case, the other testicle just wouldn't make up enough test.

Your best bet is to get a blood test done by your doctor.

Testosterone
Free Testosterone
SHBG (sex hormone binding gobulin)

FSH
LH

Tell him you want those levels checked.

It could be that your body isn't providing you with enough testosterone and yes, this will affect gains. After Testicular cancer, I just couldn't get back into shape. Kept feeling depressed, fatigued, sleepy, no apetite, no sex drive etc etc.

Blood tests showed that I was in the low range, since january this year i've been on fortnightly sus250 injections. My muscle growth is back to where it was before TC and at the moment i'm 5 weeks through a light cycle. 500mg sus EW 1-10, just finished my dianabol 40mg ED
weeks 1-4. HCG, regular pct etc etc etc...

Sorry to hi-jack this thread.
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Do not take steroids. And by the way... you aren't small for your age. In fact, you're probably above average. I was 5'11" and 112 lbs. (not a typo) when I started training 7 years ago. I was able to add 40lbs in six months with only creatine, burgers, beer and shit training. I didn't know what the hell I was doing back then. You can skip the whole learning curve by reading the training section. That reading will take you miles ahead of your peers. Follow the DHT or HST programs. Also, read Hogg's training sticky of what not to do. Eat all the meat and drink all the milk you can. Train hard. Train smart. I guarantee you will grow like a weed. You've got time on your side. If you are persistent, focused, and disciplined, you will be a monster by the time you hit 20. All natural, with no drugs. Listen to these guys. Don't take steroids.
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Either the post or the poster is a joke...and a big one at that.
I'm inclined to agree with Grizzly on this one.... "do amino acids work???" Uuuuh, what builds muscle tissue?... protein. What is protein made of?... amino acids.

I normally would not reply this way, but I'm sorry, I just couldn't help myself on this one.

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Though that is true about the amino acids, one would be better served by getting protein powder or eating plain meat instead. The amount of protein to be gotten out of the over-priced amino acid tablets is neglible. You'll go from spending 40 bucks for 10lbs of protein to 40bucks for 10ounces of protein.
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Though that is true about the amino acids, one would be better served by getting protein powder or eating plain meat instead. The amount of protein to be gotten out of the over-priced amino acid tablets is neglible. You'll go from spending 40 bucks for 10lbs of protein to 40bucks for 10ounces of protein.
Yeah, protein powders, meats, eggs, fish, etc is what I was referring to... not the actual tablets. I do see that he is probably talking about the tablets though... which I have always thought are a complete waste of money.

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