Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on newbie help within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; first cycle coming up in winter. my stats 6'0", 32 years old, 195 lbs. about 11%BF, lifting seriously for about ...
first cycle coming up in winter. my stats 6'0", 32 years old, 195 lbs. about 11%BF, lifting seriously for about 3 years. past experience with PS/PH has been the gray market stuff, SD, PP and the like, looking to try the "real thing". looking to do a 10 week cycle consisting of equipoise 150mgs. EOD, Dbol weeks 1-3 @ 20mgs. and winstrol tabs 50 mgs ED in weeks 4-10. my diet will be in check, eating about 1000-1500 cals above maintenance, and will be lean meats, mostly, lean bulk if you will. anyone see anything wrong with this cycle? please critique. thx
well thats the thing i was going to use eqi, instead of test for my first cycle. i was going to run test-e, but saw that eqi does not convert as easily to estro and thought it might be a good replacement for a first cycle. i plan on running test eventually.
dbol just to jump start this thing. that's way i'm going for 3 weeks on dbol before switching to winny. i know the two are kind of opposite of each other, but if i keep my diet in check while i'm on the dbol (for quick strength and a bit of size). make sense or no. i don't mind someone telling me i'm crazy or a bit of criticism
first cycle coming up in winter. my stats 6'0", 32 years old, 195 lbs. about 11%BF, lifting seriously for about 3 years. past experience with PS/PH has been the gray market stuff, SD, PP and the like, looking to try the "real thing". looking to do a 10 week cycle consisting of equipoise 150mgs. EOD, Dbol weeks 1-3 @ 20mgs. and winstrol tabs 50 mgs ED in weeks 4-10. my diet will be in check, eating about 1000-1500 cals above maintenance, and will be lean meats, mostly, lean bulk if you will. anyone see anything wrong with this cycle? please critique. thx
What is the goal of the cycle..to cut up or bulk up ?Why are you not eating 1000-1500 cals above maintenance now ?I guess you say lean bulker is what you are after correct..? Sounds like you have no trouble getting gear..why dont you just use sust/eq for first cycle ?
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What is the goal of the cycle..to cut up or bulk up ?Why are you not eating 1000-1500 cals above maintenance now ?I guess you say lean bulker is what you are after correct..? Sounds like you have no trouble getting gear..why dont you just use sust/eq for first cycle ?
i can;t get sust. i can however get the 3 different types of test, i guess my comcern is aromatization. i was reading that, running a low dose of nolva through out the cycle could take care of my estro concerns, just reelly afraid of developing gyno, you know. i am aware of this, that all side effects come with the territory, and should be considered before use, that why i wanted to go with eqi, because the conversion rate is lower than test. if this thinking is wrong or whatever, thats ok, i'm new to this. what would your first cycle (cutting cycle) consist of, i already have winny (50mg. tabs) clen (tabs) and primo (tabs) not that im looking to run all that, but i have it.
i can;t get sust. i can however get the 3 different types of test, i guess my comcern is aromatization. i was reading that, running a low dose of nolva through out the cycle could take care of my estro concerns, just reelly afraid of developing gyno, you know. i am aware of this, that all side effects come with the territory, and should be considered before use, that why i wanted to go with eqi, because the conversion rate is lower than test. if this thinking is wrong or whatever, thats ok, i'm new to this. what would your first cycle (cutting cycle) consist of, i already have winny (50mg. tabs) clen (tabs) and primo (tabs) not that im looking to run all that, but i have it.
Eq works very well but you will like it much better with low dose of test.or...winstrol tabs mixed with low dose test....hard to say which would work better..you could take eq longer than winstrol thoughAbout the test..If you can inject evry other day I would use test prop..gyno does not pop up over night..you can see and feel it coming on..this is when you can back off the dosage of gear and use nolvadex if needed.
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Eq works very well but you will like it much better with low dose of test.or...winstrol tabs mixed with low dose test....hard to say which would work better..you could take eq longer than winstrol thoughAbout the test..If you can inject evry other day I would use test prop..gyno does not pop up over night..you can see and feel it coming on..this is when you can back off the dosage of gear and use nolvadex if needed.
maybe 200mgs. of test-p and eqi EOD? with winny added in the last 6 weeks at 50mgs. ED?
maybe 200mgs. of test-p and eqi EOD? with winny added in the last 6 weeks at 50mgs. ED?
Usually your first cycle stays relatively simple...test only.But in your case keeping your goals in mind I would think injecting 75 mgs test prop every other day and injecting 400 - 600 mgs eq per week done 2 x per week would be a very effective lean gain cycle.weeks 1-10 eq
weeks 1-11/12 prop .You will want to stay on the prop while the eq clears your system.
And if you wanted to 50 mgs winstrol every day weeks 6-11/12
have the nolva ready,hcg also before you start.Diet will be the total key to sucess on this one..you better really have that nailed down before you start this cycle.
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About the test..If you can inject evry other day I would use test prop..gyno does not pop up over night..you can see and feel it coming on..this is when you can back off the dosage of gear and use nolvadex if needed.
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