Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on Newbie help with mild cycle within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; I really need some help...I have ten vials of omndren and plenty of D-bol. I did this same gear a ...
I really need some help...I have ten vials of omndren and plenty of D-bol. I did this same gear a year ago (1 amp omna 250 per week, 40 mg D-bol per day x 10 weeks). I made decent gains, (about 15 lbs) and for the first time I really started to look like I wanted ....but I had no knowledge at that time and so i did absolutely zero PCT. Well, I turned into the pilsbury zit boy and was as soft as a girl. NOT fun. It's taken me a year to get back to where I was in terms of my physique, and I've been educating myself quite a bit, so now I'm ready to do another cycle. Here are my stats:
37 yrs old, been training for ten + years...both bb and MMA stuff. Workout is good, diet is no problem. I'm 5'7" at 170 lbs and solid 12% Bf most of the time....read at 9-10 with calipers so i figure 12% is pretty close to actual.
What should I do? Should I do the omna @ 1 every 5 days and get an 8 week? Should I add some Deca, or maybe wait for next cycle? Procurement is kind of an issue....
As far as PCT...If i do an 8 week with what I have, when should I start nolva (no itchy nips the first time, so assuming that holds true) and how much? I'm leaning toward nolva and proviron...I don't really think I'll need the HCG with as mild a cycle as this, but any opinions are greatly appreciated. I plan on starting end of Feb, so i've got time to get my stuff together this time.
I really need some help...I have ten vials of omndren and plenty of D-bol. I did this same gear a year ago (1 amp omna 250 per week, 40 mg D-bol per day x 10 weeks). I made decent gains, (about 15 lbs) and for the first time I really started to look like I wanted ....but I had no knowledge at that time and so i did absolutely zero PCT. Well, I turned into the pilsbury zit boy and was as soft as a girl. NOT fun. It's taken me a year to get back to where I was in terms of my physique, and I've been educating myself quite a bit, so now I'm ready to do another cycle. Here are my stats:
37 yrs old, been training for ten + years...both bb and MMA stuff. Workout is good, diet is no problem. I'm 5'7" at 170 lbs and solid 12% Bf most of the time....read at 9-10 with calipers so i figure 12% is pretty close to actual.
What should I do? Should I do the omna @ 1 every 5 days and get an 8 week? Should I add some Deca, or maybe wait for next cycle? Procurement is kind of an issue....
As far as PCT...If i do an 8 week with what I have, when should I start nolva (no itchy nips the first time, so assuming that holds true) and how much? I'm leaning toward nolva and proviron...I don't really think I'll need the HCG with as mild a cycle as this, but any opinions are greatly appreciated. I plan on starting end of Feb, so i've got time to get my stuff together this time.
40 mgs dbol for 10 weeks ???I hope this was a typo....i would think you would want to do 400-500 mgs test per week for 8-10 weeks.pct will be acording to type of test used..but figure 4-6 weeks of nolva for that.Oh and do not take your dbol for more than 4 weeks.Always good to have and use hcg...
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Uh, I'm ashamed to say that it was not a typo. I'm trying to get some GOOD advice this time. Ok, do the d-bol the first 4 weeks...got it, and thank you!
As far as the test, what I have is omnadren, from what I've read it's one ester different than sustanon. Like i said, procurement is an issue, this is what i have so i want to make the most of it and go forward with a different cycle when I can get it. Theres tons of info on how/what/when etc on this forum, so going forward I'll just follow the numbers...but for what I have I appreciate any advice I can get. Do you think the proviron/nolva is a good idea, and if so at what point do i start it if i'm doing an 8 weeker? It seems like some do it all thru the cycle, but with one as mild as this what do you think?
All this information you're asking for is here on this forum. I've seen in the past two or three weeks. It's a matter of going back through the threads and reading through them -- reading a lot of stuff you won't need now but might come in handy later. It's tedious, but worth it.
I'll tell you this. Before you inject anything, make sure your PCT is squared away. Get a solid, widely accepted schedule and procure the compounds. Make sure you have them before you start injecting. You should have a healthy fear of low test levels.
Looking at what you do have, it's likely not enough for BB purposes, so maybe you should change your training strategy to focus mostly on endurance -- cardio -- because you have plenty of test for that. Once your HCT (red blood cells) is up around 50 -- about six weeks after first shot -- you'll be able to walk all day, ride your bike all day, jog, hike, sailboard, surf, push-ups, sit-ups.... And those rbc's don't die off quickly. They'll stick around for a month or more after your last shot.
For packing on LBM, I think you need to be running 500mg/week or more.
you mentioned adding deca..do not do this..you do not have enough test to use the proper amount of deca.With only taking 250 mgs test every 5 days you would only be able to take 150-200 mgs of deca..that would not do much for you.The nolva you will keep on hand during in case of itchy/sore nips...you will start your pct (nolva)somewhere between 11 and 14 days after last shot and run that 4-6 weeks..something like this 20/20/20/20/10/5 mgs,
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Thank you, i appreciate your input. I had not really thought of the endurance type of thing, but that might help prime the pump for my next cycle. Thats good stuff.
Dennis, thank you for that. I read and read but it really helps to have someone who knows what they are doing give me some giudance here. I certainly do not want to go down the same road again. I want to get this one right, and do as much as i can with what i have.
Great foreman, thats something i did not know (about the D-bol). I wish i could do the 500 test each week, but if i go with what i have will i be totally wasting my time? I did make decent gains on it last year, but the end result was pretty nasty...I'm thinking mainly because of zero PCT at the time. On another note, is there any benefit to pyramiding the D-bol, or should I just go straight 25 mgs per day divided evenly for 4 weeks? You guys are a huge help!
I really need some help...I have ten vials of omndren and plenty of D-bol. I did this same gear a year ago (1 amp omna 250 per week, 40 mg D-bol per day x 10 weeks). I made decent gains, (about 15 lbs) and for the first time I really started to look like I wanted ....but I had no knowledge at that time and so i did absolutely zero PCT. Well, I turned into the pilsbury zit boy and was as soft as a girl. NOT fun. It's taken me a year to get back to where I was in terms of my physique, and I've been educating myself quite a bit, so now I'm ready to do another cycle. Here are my stats:
37 yrs old, been training for ten + years...both bb and MMA stuff. Workout is good, diet is no problem. I'm 5'7" at 170 lbs and solid 12% Bf most of the time....read at 9-10 with calipers so i figure 12% is pretty close to actual.
What should I do? Should I do the omna @ 1 every 5 days and get an 8 week? Should I add some Deca, or maybe wait for next cycle? Procurement is kind of an issue....
As far as PCT...If i do an 8 week with what I have, when should I start nolva (no itchy nips the first time, so assuming that holds true) and how much? I'm leaning toward nolva and proviron...I don't really think I'll need the HCG with as mild a cycle as this, but any opinions are greatly appreciated. I plan on starting end of Feb, so i've got time to get my stuff together this time.
You should keep things simple, easy, I think you would get very good benefits from something like 400 mg sustenon shooting 2x week/ monday & thursday with 30mg/dbol ed...keeping your diet clean, training hard. run for 8 weeks you should put on a good 20 lbs of lean muscle.
HCG is v ery difficult to come by at this time at this time.
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