Newbie question

[etnine]

I am 47, my friend is 50, we have been lifting for about 3 years now. Last year we did a cycle of d-bol(10 a day) followed by winstrol(10 per day) in the spring, took some time off and then did d-bol again in the late summer. We were very happy with the strength gains and instead of trying to bulk up we were just trying to get rid of some body fat and get more defined. It worked well in that area also. Now the question. I stopped lifting in mid Oct and just started again, in that two and one half months I expected to lose all my gains and regain the body fat but it didn't happen, same thing with my friend. Is this the nornmal reaction to this sort of thing? Not that I am complaining its just usually during the winter months the waist size goes up a notch.
Looking forward to doing this process again this year.

[cobra75007]

Did you take any other supplements that may have helped you sustain your test level?

I'm not sure, but I've heard Chrysin helps with this.

The same happened to me a while back, but this winter I put on some pounds :-(

[bg65]

you probably have increased your lean body mass enough that it has made a significant difference in your basal metabolism...the more muscle you have, the easier it is to get lean

[freedomfighter]

Plus you're probably near an ideal mass genetically speaking. I'm curious how long did you take the orals, A total of both winny and dbol please.

Freedomfighter

[j martini]

You should really be taking injectables instead dont be scared of a needle your liver will thank you.

[mattmattmmm]

10 a day ??!! 10 mg.s or 10 pills ? not very good for your body...

[etnine]

10mg's a day. The only other thing I am on is andro derm 5mg per day. My test levels were slightly under the normal range and my doc had no problem writing a script for this. As far as the post about using liquid I'll have to give that some thought. But in the mean time what can do done to help protect my liver?

Thanks for your input

[freedomfighter]

Take something like Liver Essentials www.swansonvitamins.com . It has Milk Thistle and other good stuff for the liver. Also take Alpha Lipoic Acid a great anti-oxidant for the liver.

Freedomfighter

[etnine]

I forgot to mention the cycles were 5 weeks of d-bol followed by 3 weeks of winny. The second cycle was 6 week of d-bol only.

[j martini]

why can you not just use an injectable

[freedomfighter]

Originally Posted by etnine

I forgot to mention the cycles were 5 weeks of d-bol followed by 3 weeks of winny. The second cycle was 6 week of d-bol only.

Ouch you're poor liver. Can't keep that up and expect your liver to be healthy no matter what you take.

Freedomfighter

[Deacon]

those oral only cycles are a waste of time - one is fine but after that it is time to get with the program and inject

[etnine]

While I consider the injectables here are a couple of questions. Do you have to target each group or can you inject in your ass to still benefit all muscles?
With my age(48 in June) all I am looking for is to add a little bulk but mainly go for the strength and the lean look, what would be the best and safest way to go? I've heard its very painful.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by etnine

While I consider the injectables here are a couple of questions. Do you have to target each group or can you inject in your ass to still benefit all muscles?
With my age(48 in June) all I am looking for is to add a little bulk but mainly go for the strength and the lean look, what would be the best and safest way to go? I've heard its very painful.

EQ or Deca will do it and in the ass is fine. AAS is carried through the blood so it doesn't matter where you inject as long as it's in a muscle but the ass is best IMO. It's not painfull if done correctly