Next Cycle

[darkhorse]

Ok, I was caught in a bind, I had to order my cutting cycle this past week due to time restrictions and availability. I submitted a post out here earlier and was told I needed to do more research, because I lacked knowledge on what I should do. So I figured I'd start that now with some of your opinions. I did go a head with the order, and this is what I got:

Quantity/ Type /Manufacturer
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(2) /Testosteron Propionate /British Dragon
(3) /Trenabol Acetate /British Dragon
(5) /winstrol, stanozolol injectable /EC Labs
(1) /Arimidex /Zeneca


Now, keep in mind, I had to get the order in, so I am aware that I may have not made the best purchase. That is ok though, I have no problem setting some of it aside and waiting for a future cycle with it. I have will power.
My question is, what is the best cylce I can put together with what I have above. This is what I came up with for the CUTTING cycle last night.

Test P - 100mg every 3rd day - 8 weeks
It would look like this, (M/TH/SU, WE/SA/TU, and so on) I'm unsure if this is enough, maybe I should run it only the first 4 weeks?
Tren (1st time using) - 75mg EOD - 8 weeks
Win (1st time using) - 50mg ED - 8 weeks
Arimidex - .5mg EOD - weeks I run Test-P
(note, on my last cycle I ran the same prescript on Arimidex and felt an itch, so I bumped it up to 1mg EOD, is it ok to go back down to .5mg? I would like to keep this as low as possible.)

Also, my current stats: 6', 245lbs, 16-18%BF. 28 yrs old. Have been working out since I was 15.

Pass usage: I did experiment with roids in college, had good results but bad input as to what I was doing. I ran Deca, Primo(which I loved), and Sust all at the same time for over 12 weeks and gained 30lbs. Also, I got a small result of gyno from that cycle which made me stop. I realize I was stupid, but had bad advice from the seller and just got carried away. I was 21 at the time. That was my last cycle up to 10 weeks ago, when I ran:

Test Cyp - 100mg EOD - 8 weeks
Dbol - 30 mg ED - 6 weeks
Arimidex, as stated above

This was a good cycle for me, I used it to jump start my workouts. I was out of the gym because of work for the prior 6 months. I am now right back to where I was before I stopped working out and am happy with the results.

For the time off between I have started my diet and cardio to start shedding as much BF as I can before I start the next cycle listed above. This consists of:

CARDIO - 45 minutes (M,T,WE,F,S) on treadmill, 3% incline, 3.5mph
Legs - Monday
Chest - Tuesday
Back - Wednesday
Rest - Thursday
Shoulders - Friday
Arms - Saturday
Rest - Sunday

Diet is as follows for the next 8 weeks before cycle:
0600 - Dymetadrine (300mg Ephedra)
0630 - Cardio
0730 - Post Cardio - Myoplex
1000 - Dymetadrine, 4 whole eggs, 1 cup oats, Yogurt, Pure Pro Shake,
Banana
1230 - Sweet Potato, Yogurt, (2) cans tuna
1400 - Dymetadrine
1600 - Pre lift, Double whey shake, Redline
1800 - Dymetadrine, BCAA's
1830 - Post lift, Myoplex
1930 - (2) Chicken Breast, Broccoli, Sweet Potato, Banana
2030 - Isopure
2300 - Pre Bed, Double Whey Shake, 4 capsules 6-OXO

Thanks for taking the time to read. Please advice on any of the above.
~DARKHORSE

[Deacon]

I would run the test 1 week longer than the tren

I do not feel winny is even needed in a tren cycle but run it the last 6 weeks of the cycle not the entire cycle

otherwise I think you are gonna be fine if the winnny doesnt kill your joints

[Massive690]

Originally Posted by darkhorse

Ok, I was caught in a bind, I had to order my cutting cycle this past week due to time restrictions and availability. I submitted a post out here earlier and was told I needed to do more research, because I lacked knowledge on what I should do. So I figured I'd start that now with some of your opinions. I did go a head with the order, and this is what I got:

Quantity/ Type /Manufacturer
------------------------------------------------------------------------
(2) /Testosteron Propionate /British Dragon
(3) /Trenabol Acetate /British Dragon
(5) /winstrol, stanozolol injectable /EC Labs
(1) /Arimidex /Zeneca


Now, keep in mind, I had to get the order in, so I am aware that I may have not made the best purchase. That is ok though, I have no problem setting some of it aside and waiting for a future cycle with it. I have will power.
My question is, what is the best cylce I can put together with what I have above. This is what I came up with for the CUTTING cycle last night.

Test P - 100mg every 3rd day - 8 weeks
It would look like this, (M/TH/SU, WE/SA/TU, and so on) I'm unsure if this is enough, maybe I should run it only the first 4 weeks?
Tren (1st time using) - 75mg EOD - 8 weeks
Win (1st time using) - 50mg ED - 8 weeks
Arimidex - .5mg EOD - weeks I run Test-P
(note, on my last cycle I ran the same prescript on Arimidex and felt an itch, so I bumped it up to 1mg EOD, is it ok to go back down to .5mg? I would like to keep this as low as possible.)

Also, my current stats: 6', 245lbs, 16-18%BF. 28 yrs old. Have been working out since I was 15.

Pass usage: I did experiment with roids in college, had good results but bad input as to what I was doing. I ran Deca, Primo(which I loved), and Sust all at the same time for over 12 weeks and gained 30lbs. Also, I got a small result of gyno from that cycle which made me stop. I realize I was stupid, but had bad advice from the seller and just got carried away. I was 21 at the time. That was my last cycle up to 10 weeks ago, when I ran:

Test Cyp - 100mg EOD - 8 weeks
Dbol - 30 mg ED - 6 weeks
Arimidex, as stated above

This was a good cycle for me, I used it to jump start my workouts. I was out of the gym because of work for the prior 6 months. I am now right back to where I was before I stopped working out and am happy with the results.

For the time off between I have started my diet and cardio to start shedding as much BF as I can before I start the next cycle listed above. This consists of:

CARDIO - 45 minutes (M,T,WE,F,S) on treadmill, 3% incline, 3.5mph
Legs - Monday
Chest - Tuesday
Back - Wednesday
Rest - Thursday
Shoulders - Friday
Arms - Saturday
Rest - Sunday

Diet is as follows for the next 8 weeks before cycle:
0600 - Dymetadrine (300mg Ephedra)
0630 - Cardio
0730 - Post Cardio - Myoplex
1000 - Dymetadrine, 4 whole eggs, 1 cup oats, Yogurt, Pure Pro Shake,
Banana
1230 - Sweet Potato, Yogurt, (2) cans tuna
1400 - Dymetadrine
1600 - Pre lift, Double whey shake, Redline
1800 - Dymetadrine, BCAA's
1830 - Post lift, Myoplex
1930 - (2) Chicken Breast, Broccoli, Sweet Potato, Banana
2030 - Isopure
2300 - Pre Bed, Double Whey Shake, 4 capsules 6-OXO

Thanks for taking the time to read. Please advice on any of the above.
~DARKHORSE

good job posting the diet and shit. for all you newbies-if you want advice on cycle help this is exactly the information your post should contain

[ENDRO]

Originally Posted by Deacon

I would run the test 1 week longer than the tren

I do not feel winny is even needed in a tren cycle but run it the last 6 weeks of the cycle not the entire cycle

otherwise I think you are gonna be fine if the winnny doesnt kill your joints

I agree the Tren is all you will need along with the test. If you have never used tren you will find its fat burning properties second to none.

[rjkimme]

I'd cut out the complex carbs on this meal, just a suggestion.

1930 - (2) Chicken Breast, Broccoli, Sweet Potato, Banana

I'm going to be running a simular cycle for ten weeks leading up to a
NPC BB show this summer. I also seem to be sensitive to gyno so I going to watch my test, dosages for now on. Here is my planned cycle, might be of some help, maybe not.

1-6 prop EOD
1-9 Tren EOD
5-10 Winny EOD
7-10 Halotest

[darkhorse]

I like that cycle, I was thinking it may make more sense to use the Prop upfront as well.

Why the winny EOD and not ED?
Have you ran the winny and tren together before?

Yeah, for now I'm keeping the carbs for my dinner, but will eventually cut them out over time.

Maybe I'll just run the tren and prop and save the winny for a later cycle. Or, I can see how I react to the tren in the first few weeks and add the winny in late like you have.

What's the deal with "Fina Dick"? Anyone run into this? If so, was it first time on Tren?

Another thing I have noticed from my last cycle was nose bleeds, I have had them pretty bad, and was wondering if this is a side affect of arimidex? I've been off it for a week and a half now and they seem to be getting better.

[rjkimme]

Last yr I ran tren and winny EOD for 10 weeks while dieting for a show
and had no problem til the last week before the show (Fina dick). I was doing two hrs of cardio (won't do that again) so really I was just too tired, the week after I was fine. If I wasn't doing a show I think Prop and tren would work really good, think Ill try that next winter.

[darkhorse]

do you remember your weight before and post cycle? Also, how much BF would you say you loss?

I have done the 2 hours of cardio a day before and it does suck, especially when you are dieting, though I have gotten good results. I will stick to 45 minutes in the early morning for the next 6-7 weeks, then start the cycle, still do cardio at same rate, and then I will do 45min morning and 45min at night for the last week of the cycle/diet.

thanks for the time.

[rjkimme]

I went from about 192 down to 175.5. Im 5'6 and compete as a middle
weight. My bodyfat was around 10% and I got down in the 5% range
which still wasn't low enough. This yr I'm starting about the same weight
but leaner so its going to be tough getting down to the middle weight. I think
I over did the cardio last yr so I wouldn't recommend 2 hr unless you are in a big
hurry cause I feel you will lose some muscle, at least I did. Also I'd add time
slowly like 15 minutes every two weeks.