Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on No fat TESTOSTERONE within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; In one of my earlier posts someone said that " you should not gain fat while on T, as long ...
In one of my earlier posts someone said that " you should not gain fat while on T, as long as your diet is good". So assuming i go back on the test at 200mg+/week and eat clean, and do nothing but cardio, and take .5 Adex EOD, why do i have a hard time stripping weight? usually by the third week my weight is up 5-10 pounds even with cardio and modest protein intake(175-250 gm/day). This is the sole reason I wanted to try other formulations of T ( Halotestin, Deca, Winstrol) to see if i could lose weight while still having moderately high androgen levels. Case in point* I had lost 20lbs rather easy with just a diet change, and then i started the shots and gained back all the weight i lost and then some over a 7month time frame. Maybe it is possible to loose some fat while continuously on T shots, But its damn hard, other wise you guys would run Cypionate even when cutting, but you dont, and why? Because its hard to strip weight(fat) while on this RIGHT.
If you're gaining fat while on any test no matter the ester, and you're positive the diet is clean as can be, cut back your caloric intake. You can't gain what you don't have. Also 20 pounds over 7 months with test while eating clean and doing lots of cardio shouldn't be fat. water and muscle yes, fat... not unless you're storing a lot of calories.
Ya i agree with NavyIron for sure, testosterone doesnt make you gain fat.... of course some testosterone aromatizes to estrogen -which can cause you to put on some fat. Everyone is different of course and Genetics vary hugely from person to person -but maybe your more sensitive to the fattening aspects of estrogen than most? Are the women in for family kinda large? That might be a good indicator as they share alot of your genetics; and have more estrogen than you.
As far as i understand it androgens actually cause adipose tissue to release fat, which causes some weight loss. The reason most bodybuilders dont think of test as a "Cutting" drug persay is that the effect isnt huge to any measure: you know, when compared to ECA, T3, Clen, Etc. but i think your being a little inaccurate when you say
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other wise you guys would run Cypionate even when cutting, but you dont
As i think lots of people run test when cutting to help preserve there muscle mass. I certainly intend to when i run my cutting cycle in 6 weeks.
Like Navy said -if you dont have the caloric intake: you cannot gain fat. So if nothing else works and your sure your not putting on muscle and its for sure fat -drop the calories i guess.
Yes I posted that. And I have used test cyp and enan and sust while dieting even taking other things like deca or dbol and drol. In almost EVERY single cycle whether it be cutting or bulking, you will see test in there. The reason that you see more test prop than e or c, is because of timing and water retention. Since prop has a much shorter half life, it has to be injected at a much more frequent time frame. Since you inject it often, you only inject smaller amounts which translates to lower peak levels than one 500mgs shot of test c. Since you have lower peak levels, less of it converts to estrogan and you dont have the same water retention. Also, high estrogan levels can LEAD to fat gain. If you are bloating at all, then up your dosage of adex. If you are close to or over 20% bf, then up your adex dosage. (estrogen is stored in fat cells). So you can easily diet on test since everyone else does it
Now, here is where it gets tricky, eating CLEAN does NOT mean you will lose weight. It means your body can use nutrients more effeciantly. You need to know EXACTLY how many grams of carbs/protein/fat and the micros of each (sugars, fiber, unsat, monounsat, etc... you get the point). Once you get a handle on that, then you can adjust from there to get the results you desire
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I happen to be about 22% BF (I know, i kinda suck) when i do my cutting cycle should i run Nolvadex with it? I dont happen to have any armidex: but i wasnt originally planning on running any anti-estrogen. I figured with the T3's, clen, eca, caloric reduction, and a whole lot of cardio i wouldnt have any problem cutting down to 10 - 14% BF: well at least that is my goal anyway.
Shit thats wierd when my buddy took cypionate for 10 weeks he ate like shit (fast food, pizza etc) and he didnt gain a ounce haha. But then again everyone is different.
I happen to be about 22% BF (I know, i kinda suck) when i do my cutting cycle should i run Nolvadex with it? I dont happen to have any armidex: but i wasnt originally planning on running any anti-estrogen. I figured with the T3's, clen, eca, caloric reduction, and a whole lot of cardio i wouldnt have any problem cutting down to 10 - 14% BF: well at least that is my goal anyway.
Actually using Nolva through the whole cycle helps in dieting if you have fat deposits around your midsection and love handles. if you carry it pretty evenly over the whole body, then just have nolva on hand in case of estrogen sides, but adex would be the best choice
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In one of my earlier posts someone said that " you should not gain fat while on T, as long as your diet is good". So assuming i go back on the test at 200mg+/week and eat clean, and do nothing but cardio, and take .5 Adex EOD, why do i have a hard time stripping weight? usually by the third week my weight is up 5-10 pounds even with cardio and modest protein intake(175-250 gm/day). This is the sole reason I wanted to try other formulations of T ( Halotestin, Deca, Winstrol) to see if i could lose weight while still having moderately high androgen levels. Case in point* I had lost 20lbs rather easy with just a diet change, and then i started the shots and gained back all the weight i lost and then some over a 7month time frame. Maybe it is possible to loose some fat while continuously on T shots, But its damn hard, other wise you guys would run Cypionate even when cutting, but you dont, and why? Because its hard to strip weight(fat) while on this RIGHT.
maybe halotestin will work better for you. try it out. you will get strong without the problems you run into with test and a dex.
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