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Tamoxifen, raloxifene and toremifene are SERMs: they attach themselves to the receptor for estradiol but don�t start up the processes that usually follow after estradiol has attached itself to its receptor. That�s why doctors use SERMS against tumours whose growth is stimulated by female hormones.

Chemical athletes use SERMs because they raise the testosterone level. One of the ways that the body monitors its own production of sex hormones is by keeping an eye on the concentration of estradiol in the blood. If it gets too high then sex hormone production is reduced � including the production of testosterone. Because the control mechanisms make use of estradiol receptors, SERMs crank up testosterone production. That�s why chemical athletes use substances like tamoxifen after taking a course of steroids.

The Greek researchers did a trial with just under three hundred infertile men, whose sperm count was low and most of whom had low levels of testosterone production. The researchers gave the men either 20 mg tamoxifen, 60 mg toremifene or 60 mg raloxifene daily for three months. The table below shows what happened to the men�s LH, FSH and testosterone levels.

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Default Re: Nolvadex best T-booster of the SERMS (Interesting Study)

interesting....i do have a random question though? if someone did not want to cycle gear but just wanted to boost there naturall test levels? Could they take tamoxifen citrate just to give them a boost in the gym?
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interesting....i do have a random question though? if someone did not want to cycle gear but just wanted to boost there naturall test levels? Could they take tamoxifen citrate just to give them a boost in the gym?
I thought about that as well but it's not worth it because the body is going to get used to it eventually and it will take a higher dosage and prolonged duration of PCT to get the same benefit after a cycle.
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ahh, makes sense, so ill just stick to it pct then
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Haha, As always Im sticking with the Nolvadex, WOOP WOOP.
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Dave palumbo will never suggest you nolvadex for pct..its not good..dont do nolvadex..hcg+arimidex!
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Dave palumbo will never suggest you nolvadex for pct..its not good..dont do nolvadex..hcg+arimidex!
Well not to put a damper on Dave Palumbo's, "EXPERTISE", Ive seen him recommend Deca @ a high dosage, No Test, primo @ 100mg, and some winni, with clomid, adex, and hcg for pct. Ive also seen cycles hes made where he changes test esters for no fucking reason in a cycle. Judging by the cycles ive seen him make, his advice certainly isnt what I plan on taking. Id rather go read on of anthony robert's books lol. And we all know how awesome his advice is... lol I could give two fucks what he says, I know what works for me. And i still think you should be banned G Fre$h

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Dave palumbo will never suggest you nolvadex for pct..its not good..dont do nolvadex..hcg+arimidex!
Dave Palumbo doesn't know shit. Stop mentioning that guy. Realize it. HE GIVES BAD ADVICE. And just so you know, HCG can shut you down as well so it's logic not to include it in pct. Maybe stop using before pct and/or while on cycle yes.

Show me the evidence that proves that a-dex is better than nolva in boosting testosterone.
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I thought about that as well but it's not worth it because the body is going to get used to it eventually and it will take a higher dosage and prolonged duration of PCT to get the same benefit after a cycle.
wraithgs asked if you could use nolva as a stand alone test booster. Why are you talking about PCT and benefit after a cycle? Also, in what sense will "the body get used to it eventually?"

Tamoxifen and clomid are very effective testosterone boosters. The problem is that they also lower IFG-1 and GH levels. The net effect on body composition is unknown, though my guess is that they have at least a mild positive effect.
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