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Old 07-14-2004, 03:29 PM
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I am about to start a cycle of sus & Deca at 500/wk & 200/wk respectively for 8 wks. Now I have read how it is possible to optimize the time on a cycle by front loading to get blood levels up quicker and then about 2 wks before the end of the cycle, say wks 7 & 8 in this case, switch to shorter esters so that they will clear the system faster to allow a quicker start to pct and therefore a quicker finish to the cycle and recovery.

The theory goes, with the blood levels up sooner, benefits of the drug will be felt quicker and for longer. And, with the shorter esters clearing quicker at the end and pct implemented sooner, time off can begin and be over sooner, thus allowing another cylce to begin sooner. Think about it. Insted of waiting 3 wks to begin pct you wait 3 days. It sounds plausible in theory but I don't know, you guys are the experienced ones.

So, is there any reasoning behind this. If there is, can anyone suggest what to switch to at wks 7 & 8. I was thinking of prop & winny eod, then starting pct 3 days after last dose.

Will this be sufficient. Any suggestions please bros.

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Old 07-14-2004, 06:50 PM
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i know alot of guys here have done that with success. it works, plain and simple, for the very reasons you stated.

about your cycle...if you dont frontload the deca, run it for atleast 10 weeks. if you frontload, then its OK to cut it at week 8 and switch to prop and winny. but you'll need to run the prop/winny for 3 weeks to allow for the deca clearance times. and winny needs to be ED. if you dont want to inject ED, drink the winny. you could also throw in tren...but that an ED shot also.

after running the short esters for 3 weeks, yes, you could start PCT 3 days after.

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By the same token, using the shorter acting drugs makes the cycle shorter than if you used long acting esters. Let's say you use enanthat at 500mg/wk. After the last inject you'll have approximately 2 weeks still at a supraphysiological level of test, albeit lesser than the previous weeks. This equates to more gains.

I don't really care which you choose and I'm not saying either one is better. I was just throwing that out there for argument's sake.
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Old 07-15-2004, 06:35 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys, always helpful. I understand that I may not benefit from the longer running easters at the end but this should be offset by the front-loading. On the whole, the area under the curve should be larger with less of a slope at the front and at the end.

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