Oral and Grapefruit Juice

[Lizard King]

I want to throw Winstrol in my next cycle but just can't stand shooting it any longer. I think Bigbench posted you can take it with Grapefruit juice to help the absorption of it. Is there a certain amount of juice (grapefruit, lol) you need to take with the winny? If I put a 1/2 cc, 50mg, what can I expect to be absorbed?
Thanks

[dennis]

Originally Posted by Lizard King

I want to throw Winstrol in my next cycle but just can't stand shooting it any longer. I think Bigbench posted you can take it with Grapefruit juice to help the absorption of it. Is there a certain amount of juice (grapefruit, lol) you need to take with the winny? If I put a 1/2 cc, 50mg, what can I expect to be absorbed?
Thanks

The amount of grape fruit juice will not matter bro..just drink like 1/2 cup of it with the winstrol.(enough to mask the taste).I have heard the old schoolers say many times to up dosage slightly when using winstrol orally..something like 60-70 mgs per day.I cant imagine someone not wanting to pin themselves ed !?

[chemical g]

I totally disagree in that concept. The active ingredient in grapefruit, skin, flesh or juice is called "Naringin" it has the ability to enhance several pharmaceutical compounds by blocking an enzyme in the liver that breaks down the drug thus it causes the drug to circulate for much longer periods of time. It also enhances the compound which can cause too higher a dose and can lead to dangerous side effects. However steroids arent amoung the compounds that Naringin will enhance. Ephedrine/ Caffiene/ Certain MOA inhibitors and a few blood pressure medications are effected if taken at the same time as consuming grapefruit juice or any part of the fruit. If you want your fat burners containing ECA to work for longer then consume them with grapefruit or with a glass of the concentrated juice. As a pharmacist I have looked into this compound extensively and there are no benefits in taking steroid orals with Naringin. Also note that the yellow grapefruit doesnt contain any Naringin only the red or ruby grapefruit contains Naringin.

[Lizard King]

Don't mind the pinning every day, just not with winny!
Anyone have anything else to say on this topic by chance?
Thanks

[dennis]

Originally Posted by dennis

The amount of grape fruit juice will not matter bro..just drink like 1/2 cup of it with the winstrol.(enough to mask the taste).I have heard the old schoolers say many times to up dosage slightly when using winstrol orally..something like 60-70 mgs per day.I cant imagine someone not wanting to pin themselves ed !?

chemical g had interesting info..The point I was trying to make was ..slightly up the dose of stano and mix it with something to mask the taste..or better yet..pin it !

[bigbench]

Chem, you are right. The majority of all studies done on chemical reaction in the presence of Naringin have been with prescription meds and so forth. The increased rate of absorbtion was about 50% purely because most meds are just the meds and not made to pass through the liver fully. However, just like Dennis pointed out, most people take more of a certain drug because no matter how many times it passes threw the liver and how protected it is, some will be destroyed. Our bodies only process 85% of most oral AAS, but when taking with Naringin, that number has been as high as 96%. It may only be a small percentage, but its still better than nothing.

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by bigbench

Chem, you are right. .

Not necessarily.
He hasn't showen any evidence in favor of his conclusion.
Theres just a lack of evidence of support that it does.{inhibit the breakdown of oral anabolic in the liver}
Although I did find one website that stated that Testosterone was one of the medications {as per a list} but no real evidence in favor.
I'd like to see evidence against pleas eChem.

[Lizard King]

Actually the winny is so thick I can't pin it which is why I was wondering about how much to drink with the grapefruit juice. I have 3 bottles of 100mg and plan on adding it in with my Enanthate and Tren A cycle at either 50mg ED or EOD, I'll just up that to 70 - 80mg.
Is ED or EOD preferred?

[MrBman]

broo what type of pins are using? i was using 25g and 27g pins for a bit and it would take like 10minutes for me to get the gear outve the bottle ... use 22g now ... works a lot better

[Lizard King]

I use 22's and it is just this batch of winny for some reason. I have never ever had a problem with it but for some reason this batch is thick. I never tried it orally, have always pinned it, are the results about the same?
Thanks

[dbcooper]

Originally Posted by Lizard King

Actually the winny is so thick I can't pin it which is why I was wondering about how much to drink with the grapefruit juice. I have 3 bottles of 100mg and plan on adding it in with my Enanthate and Tren A cycle at either 50mg ED or EOD, I'll just up that to 70 - 80mg.
Is ED or EOD preferred?

WINNY nad test susp arent easy to work with bro i agree , u can run hte vial under hot water and than hurry up draw and switch pins gotta move quick thou, this will cause it to slide better, i dont really like winny much but it seems to be one of my only options with what i wanna accomplish the most painful injections for me are winny prop and susp,

[bigbench]

Is it suspended in oil or water?

[Lizard King]

It's in water, 100mg/cc. I used to use the QV stuff all the time and never had a problem but this is from someone else in china. I don't want to shoot the winny either way, hurts to damn bad. Plus I will be doing Test E and Tren A and would rather shoot this and take the winny orally. I was going to do Test E 500mg/wk for 12 weeks and Tren A at 300mg a week for the same 12 weeks. I have this winny and was just going to throw it in orally at 50mg EOD, not sure how long to run it for though. I do have some 50mg BD pills but I want to get rid of this liquid before it expires.

[chemical g]

Here is a little trick I have used over the years.
If you are able to get vitamin B12 injectable it will make your water base injecting much easier. Draw the required volume on stanozolol into the syringe after shaking the vial well. ie. 1ml then draw a further 2 ml vitamin B12 into the same syringe. leave a little air space in the syringe and shake it well change the needle remove the air and inject. It does work very well as long as you mix it in a 2-1 ratio (2 parts B12 to 1 part stan or test suspension) this will also solve your needle clogging problem. Let us know if you come right its something thats always worked for me. Just make sure you use Vitamin B12 and not Vitamin B Complex then you are going to have a problem. Vit B12 is a redish/dark pink liquid and B complex is yellow.