oral cycle, check it out, is it ok for start after cut with ephedrine - MESO-Rx

Mr.B · #1 (**permalink**) 11-15-2004, 07:15 PM

everything s working as before just looks better

DBOL WInny PROV
WEEK 1 35MG
WEEK 2 35MG 10 MG
WEEK 3 40MG 15 MG
WEEK 4 45MG 20 MG 25 MG
WEEK 5 5OMG 30 MG 25 MG
WEEK 6 45MG 30 MG 50 MG
WEEK 7 40MG 20 MG 50 MG
WEEK 8 35MG 10 MG 25 MG
WEEK 9 30MG 5 MG 25 MG

included diet and proteine enhanced meals

thanks for any possible advice

OneStrongMutha · #2 (**permalink**) 11-15-2004, 09:00 PM

for 9 weeks of orals only, you better run a shitload of milk thistle, or some other liver protector. damn

skywalk · #3 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 12:31 AM

horrible cycle.
don't pyramid...you need an anti E from day one.
oral winny should be at least 50mg ED. jeez thats a bad cycle

repost your cycle with some injectibles, otherwise you can do a 4-weeker oral only if you really want to throw money away cus this way you'll minimize the damage done to your body

Mr.B · #4 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 06:57 AM

mate wanted some opinions about this and I did what he asked, i dont like it cause he wouldnt use winny, also what will he do with just dbol,
damn,
he wont use injecatables only orals
4 weeks is beter option? ++liv 52 and other stuff

cjk · #5 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by skywalk

you need an anti E from day one.

dude not for this little stack. maybe a little clomid at the end and perhaps some nolva on hand JUST IN CASE

I think you were searching and found this on a website. I remember WHEN I first started searching i found a website that had stacks that were built like that. REAL LOW on the winny.

Helterskelter · #6 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.B

mate wanted some opinions about this and I did what he asked, i dont like it cause he wouldnt use winny, also what will he do with just dbol,
damn,
he wont use injecatables only orals
4 weeks is beter option? ++liv 52 and other stuff

If he won't use injectibles, he shouldn't be using steroids.

skywalk · #7 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjk

dude not for this little stack. maybe a little clomid at the end and perhaps some nolva on hand JUST IN CASE

I think you were searching and found this on a website. I remember WHEN I first started searching i found a website that had stacks that were built like that. REAL LOW on the winny.

dbol aromatizes big time for me. And unlike most bros on this board, I treat estrogen like the enemy. I dont wait for sides before taking nolva or femara. I suppress that sucker as much as I can (keeping in mind you can never get your levels down to zero no matter how much femara/nolva you take)

Having nolva on hand in case you get itcy nips is like saying having a cast ready in case you get in a car wreck and break your legs. Makes no sense to me seeing as estrogen dosnt do you any good. (yes you need some of it during cycles but that little bit remaining after you suppress it with femara is enough for growth)

it makes you fat, gives you headaches, makes your prostate swell, raises your blood pressure, increases the stress on kidneys, makes you look smooth and not vascular, and the uncontrolled levels with bros who have nolva "on hand" are selling themselves short in their cycles cus they let so much of it aromatize...even if they dont see sides.

anyway, back to this oral only cycle, 4 weeks is plenty for your liver esp on 3 orals.

have milk thistle, cranberry, liv52, tylers detox, vit C, E, R-ALA, and 2 gallons of water per day, plus your anti-E. for post cycle HPTA recovery have your nolva ready. unless of course you want to spend more money on PCT, want more zits, want more hormone fluctuations, in which case go with clomid.

cjk · #8 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 08:28 PM

didn't see dbol! and as far as clomid - nolva there are so many back and forth reports on them on wich is better and why. it depends on you more then anything. some people REALLY dislike clomid others it dosn't effect them like that.

bg65 · #9 (**permalink**) 11-16-2004, 09:00 PM

sorry if i sound like a jerk, but there is nothing good about this cycle...running two alkylated orals for 9 wks? and why dbol with winny, that's kind of an odd pairing...if his vaginitis is so bad that he won't inject, then he should just do one or the other. contrary to what everyone on this board will say, he will make gains from just dbol (i have seen it first hand) what are his goals? is he bulking or cutting? or does he just want to use steroids?