PCT-My thoughts on Post cycle therapy ~ Phreezer

[hackskii]

Clomid @ 100mg ED doubles LH output and increases FSH by 20 to 50% in just 5 to 7 days.
So, at the very least, to fire up the pituitary fast, clomid would be nice.

Winstrol from my personal experiance is farily supressive, but even more jacked my lipid profile up pretty bad.
Nolvadex at the end of a cycle will help to lower cholesterol,

[swe1975]

thanx for the good reading!
i have myself never done a pct after a cycle since i started up during the early 90´s but i am getting older and are having harder to get back after a cycle so i will start doing pct after my cycle has reached it´s end but that will take a couple of months more untill i have reached the time for that i have started getting some nolvadex for later and i just started to use proviron during this sustanon cycle 1amp eod due to the heavy water my body contained and it seems to be helping me out so that is great so thanx for this info it will be of good use when the time comes for the pct and if i dont remember wrong i have to wait for about 2-3weeks untill i can start up the pct if i am using sustanon still at the time for pct i am thinking of doing a short ending a couple of weeks with tren,winstrol or halotestin to shorten the wait so i can start with the pct as soon as possible when i am off the gear!
i have some info on that winstrol or halotestin has a much faster or how i should put it!(i can start with pct much faster if i end the sustanon and switch over to a high dosage of halo or winny at the very last weeks(4-5weeks)and then pct after a couple of days i think winny is ok for a fast start on pct dont have to wait so long to start up with it when comparing it to sustanon and the trenbolone before the orals and after the sustanon will probably shuttdown the bodys own production of hormones even further than the sustanon allready has done so a oral like winny or halotestin for a couple of weeks after i have discontinued the trenbolone(parabolan or enanthate or acetate that is the question it is up to what is in stock for the best price at the moment and what brand it is)

thanx for the info it is never to late to start doing something that is improving the gains to be keept a little better than i usually does have had good keepings of the gains even with out the pct but after reading this and looking around other info on the pct that could give me a better start at the end of the cycle

[Angela T]

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[DizzyD]

thanks alot good info!

[NeuroEndoDO]

Originally Posted by Phreezer

that's kind of a weak route to go.. If you're taking it orally you reall need to run about 100mg ed if you just have to do an oral only cycle of winstrol. If you're injecting you can get by with about 50mg ED. When you take it orally only about 40% or so actually survives the Digestive tract so 40mg ed is a waste of your time and money.. Dbol survise the GI tract much better and would be a lot better drug to use at those dosage if you only had the courage to do an oral only cycle.


WHenever you use AAS for more than a few weeks you're going to have some natural suppression but if you stick that that 40mg ed stuff of winstrol for 4 weeks I wouldn't think any PCT would be necesssary. That's so mild if there is any suppression it will be mild and you'll get over it naturally pretty quick.

Phreezer,
Thank you for your knowledge and experience. This is now one young doc who feels like I got a good handle on a clear PCT protocol for patients. From your posts it looks like you usually do not run hCG for more than two weeks consecutively. Is there a specific reason for this?

I am trying to figure out how long is safe to have pts use 1000 IU hCG EOD or E3D without it leading to axis suppression. I certainly do not want to make anyone primary hypo in my attempt to cure their secondary hypo.

Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

[debrarbass]

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