PCT-My thoughts on Post cycle therapy ~ Phreezer

[bglick]

I am 10 days out and about to start my hcg. (1000iu/day for 10 days) I once read that 10 days out was when i should start but this thread is suggesting the day after last shot. My question is, because i have waited 10 days what should I do? Keep in mind that I have more gear. (sust) if i start hcg tonight shoud i still wait the 10 days until i start clomid?

[Massive690]

Originally Posted by bglick

I am 10 days out and about to start my hcg. (1000iu/day for 10 days) I once read that 10 days out was when i should start but this thread is suggesting the day after last shot. My question is, because i have waited 10 days what should I do? Keep in mind that I have more gear. (sust) if i start hcg tonight shoud i still wait the 10 days until i start clomid?

i dont see what the problem is. its been 10 day since your last test shot, right? so start hcg/nolva tonight and then start clomid after your last hcg shot.

Originally Posted by bglick

Keep in mind that I have more gear. (sust)

you cycle is over bro. dont inject any more gear, just start with the pct tonight or tomorrow

[bglick]

thank you sir, i will do just that.

have a great day. just for shits and giggles i did 500mg sust and 300 mg deca for 8 weeks. trained hard in beginning then had an injury and some other shit take place but still put on 23 pounds. Went from 180 to 203. I'll be happy if i end up 190+ and a bit leaner when this is all over

[atomicone]

I agree with your claim that 1000ius ED can work well for many users (myself included), but I always start my first injection 10 days after my last Test shot. From what I've read you're saying do it the day after. Why? Don't you want to wait for the test to start clearing out of your system?

Originally Posted by Phreezer

I have not discussed HCG administration with swale vdc.. However, I have used HCG for many years and through some trial and error and research of my own I've been able to learn what works best for me..

WRT to swale's methods...You need to remember that he is dealing with older men who are permanantly supressed and on full time HRT... Most of the members of this board do not fall into this category.. I think it unwise to adminster the same treatment method for two entirely different demographics of people... There is a big difference between a 50 yr old man who has been permanantly shut down and that of a healthy 25 yr old who is only TEMPORARILY repressed. As this thread title stated.. this is MY oppinion... What do you base your previous statements on VDC?

And I'd Also like to say, that since I have been an avid lifter for well over a decade, I believe that I have learned some very effective methods for keeping the muscular gains I makefrom my cycles...

Does your HCG administration protocol allow you to keep a great majority of the muscular mass that you gain from your cycles?

[njander]

great post. this is why i got on the computer and it was the first post that I read. really helped!!!

[Phreezer]

bump

[pike440]

never knew hcg could cause permanent damage if not used right

[dragon007th]

Most interesting to read all comments and simply great to see people helping each other with good advises. Never seen that!

Now, it is by asking that you also learn. I therefore would like to raise that question.

Am thinking of doing my first cycle. Very simple one as it is the first one. Once a week test enant for 8 weeks. what dosage would you advise? (I am 176cm 69 kg, training longtime already and used to be 50kg only!)

The opinion now is diferent from various people to take either nolvadex or clomid at the end. Some comment to take nolva during the full cycle for known reasons. Most comment of no need to take hcg after such a cycle.

Could you please help me out a bit as ideas are very different on the pct issue and as in the Threat "Sex drive" a good pct can help overcome such issues I belive.

thanks a lot!!

[piercj2]

Have any of you guys ever got actual hormone tests done to really see if your natural testosterone jumbs back after a cycle. This is the only way to know. The tests do not lie. Go to an endicrinologist

[Phreezer]

Piercj2....

I'm tired of your bullshit lies and your spamming of every BB message board out there... Take your contradicting lies elsewhere..