PCT-My thoughts on Post cycle therapy ~ Phreezer

[Naudo11]

I am at week 10 right now but I want to get off the cycle because I know its bad with out test. I am about to order HCG. Where could I get the amp breaker? Next question, so when have you started the nolva and clomi after your cycles, I got the liquid forms from AR-R.

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by Naudo11

I am at week 10 right now but I want to get off the cycle because I know its bad with out test. I am about to order HCG. Where could I get the amp breaker? Next question, so when have you started the nolva and clomi after your cycles, I got the liquid forms from AR-R.

No need for an amp breaker, just snap them with a quick firm grip.

What gear are you using and how much are you using?
This will determine when to start PCT.

[bish35]

Question if im running a short cycle of tren and winstrol for some lbs to be lost and throwing in some low dose test could I use hcg and clomid or hcg and nova or are all three needed for my pct

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by bish35

Question if im running a short cycle of tren and winstrol for some lbs to be lost and throwing in some low dose test could I use hcg and clomid or hcg and nova or are all three needed for my pct

I always run clomid and nolva together and I run the nolva longer than the clomid.
Yes HCG can be used during the cycle to maintain testicular function.
Does not need much to maintain testicular function, somewhere around 350-500iu E3D is fine.

[freezingsebastian]

Having HCG, nolvadex and Clomid.

What would be a a good PCT if your running a cyccle of

Week 1-10 500mg sustanon (250mg monday and 250mg on FRIDAY)
Week 1-7 200mg of DECA (200mg on WEDnesday)

[hackskii]

Originally Posted by freezingsebastian

Having HCG, nolvadex and Clomid.

What would be a a good PCT if your running a cyccle of

Week 1-10 500mg sustanon (250mg monday and 250mg on FRIDAY)
Week 1-7 200mg of DECA (200mg on WEDnesday)

Yes, run the HCG throughout at around 350iu-500iu E3D and run that past the last sust shot.
Sustanon has a long ester in there so dont start your PCT till about 3 weeks from last jab.
I just got done with almost the exact same cycle @ 500 sust (2 shots), and some anavar, ran that 9 weeks.

I did notice thought that I did get testicular atrophy after I was done.
So, I should have ran that throughout at maybe about week 3.
Nuts still are a bit small but I am still running the HCG.
No problems really if you are taking a SERM with it.

I always run my nolva and clomid together.
I run my nolvadex @ 20mg for 45 days
Clomid 50mg twice a day (100 mg total) for 30 days.
Going to run them a little longer this time around as the nuts are not back to normal size, so no sense in stopping the HCG till full testicular function is achieved.
As of now I am 6 weeks from last jab.
I notice the sust stayed in my system a very long time, but this is the first time I have used sust.
I normally use enanthate or cypionate, or even propionate.
But, its all good, you should be fine.

[bectism]

was hoping someone could help with a couple of ?'s. been lifting for 15+ years. lifting and nutrition are good. new to gear. I have some second hand stuff and some ?'s how to use it. I have appox 2300-2400mg test prop. I have read and inquired about it use and received some input. This is all i have and it expires in may 07. I have decided to try it. Although some people think it is useless I'm going to try a cycle of 200/mg twice a week till it runs out. prob 5-6 weeks. It's all i got for now and i dont want it to expire. financially embarassed at moment. some think 500/wk is better for sorter period, i'm open as being a newbie. either way I was wondering if anti estrogen and pct is still needed. I also have a bottle of tamoxifen 11 mg caps and two vials of clomid 10000 IU cpd. Not sure if such a sort cycle warrants the use of this, and if the amounts would change. I made sure i was taking enough to not just replace my natural test but on a short cycle would my natural shut down enough to need pct. anti estrogen is a separate ?. dont know if the duration would cause gyno. anyway this is what i have and i really could use a hand with the best way to use it. I tried posting a thread on getbig with a much shorter thread and people seemed angry that i didnt do any research before asking for help. hence the long thread. I have read plenty on newbie cycles but none on such a short duration. others have said i would see gains and my theory is it cant hurt. but all research is on the 10-12 week cycle for newbies. I dont mind taking the abuse if needed. someone sent me a message, although would post (didnt want to be seen helping the newbie) and said someone here might be willing to help. thanks

[musclepigg]

Did a long cycle of T. Cyp and am shut down and atrophied (not too bad, they need to get back to normal).

I have about 9000iu of hcg available, plus toremifene, clomid and nolvadex.

Can anyone recommend a PCT that includes the toremifene? My last shot was 9 days ago.

Thanks in advance.

[hackskii]

bectism, you will need to run a PCT with that, I notice atrophy within about 3 weeks time.
You could run short 17 day cycles with that with little supression

[pikky knee]

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