pct question

[mikesmallguns]

plan on doing first cycle of test. en. at 250mg and eq. at 300mg.I am 42 and I realize that this will shut me down for a short time but will hcg be a definate or will nolva and clomid help.

[jsupstarz]

Well HCG will just make your balls get bigger if they shrink. Nolva or clomid will help with gyno if you get it. But No drug will stop you from shutting down. Nolva or clomid is used at the end for your pct to boost your HPTA - nat. test back up to working levels.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by mikesmallguns

plan on doing first cycle of test. en. at 250mg and eq. at 300mg.I am 42 and I realize that this will shut me down for a short time but will hcg be a definate or will nolva and clomid help.

I am 35 and have never used HCG but people are different. More people seem to need it than people that don't. I would suggest having some handy just in case. I also use Nolva and not Clomid. There are a lot of people that are fine with just Nolva. You have to make sure that you get enough to run for PCT + enough to run ED while on cycle in case you show signs of gyno. If you do, you will need it immediately.

I am going to suggest that you run the test higher than the EQ.

Here are some links to study-

Phreezer's First cycle FAQ

PCT-My thoughts on Post cycle therapy ~ Phreezer

HDH

[Mr Wiggly]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

Well HCG will just make your balls get bigger if they shrink. Nolva or clomid will help with gyno if you get it. But No drug will stop you from shutting down. Nolva or clomid is used at the end for your pct to boost your HPTA - nat. test back up to working levels.

Please excuse my ignorance but what does it mean to shut your self down? And how do you avoid it?

[jsupstarz]

Yeah and don't take the shit unless you need it for gyno during cycle. Many places advertise to take it all the way through, don't waste your money.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by Mr Wiggly

Please excuse my ignorance but what does it mean to shut your self down? And how do you avoid it?

When you are "shut down", your natural test production has stopped.

How to avoid it?...............You don't.

That's why Test is usually suggested to be run higher than other aas in a stack (Test will shut you down also).

HDH

[dennis]

Originally Posted by Mr Wiggly

Please excuse my ignorance but what does it mean to shut your self down? And how do you avoid it?

Do not use steroids !

[HDH]

Originally Posted by dennis

Do not use steroids !

I was going to say that but I'm trying to be good

HDH

[dennis]

Sorry hdh..I'm feeling a little "testy" today !

[HDH]

Originally Posted by dennis

Sorry hdh..I'm feeling a little "testy" today !

No pun intended?

HDH

[beezil]

Originally Posted by mikesmallguns

plan on doing first cycle of test. en. at 250mg and eq. at 300mg.I am 42 and I realize that this will shut me down for a short time but will hcg be a definate or will nolva and clomid help.

how long are you going to run this cycle for??

Low dose HCG will just keep you full; therefore making your PCT easier and make your gains stick. Run the Nolva and Clomid for PCT following the stickies posted by Phreezer's first cycle.

Although, I would up the EQ dose at least to 400mg... better at 600mg; and run for 12-15weeks.

HDH; you never run HCG?? Even with Tren??

[HDH]

Originally Posted by beezil

how long are you going to run this cycle for??

Low dose HCG will just keep you full; therefore making your PCT easier and make your gains stick. Run the Nolva and Clomid for PCT following the stickies posted by Phreezer's first cycle.

Although, I would up the EQ dose at least to 400mg... better at 600mg; and run for 12-15weeks.

HDH; you never run HCG?? Even with Tren??

Nope, never had a case of the shrivles.

HDH

[mikesmallguns]

I WILL be running the cycle for ten weeks.So in your opinion a cycle of test.en @250mg and eq @ 250mg is to mild for my first cycle?

[HDH]

If your going to run 500mg, I would suggest running Test only. I think you will get more out of it.

HDH

[beezil]

Originally Posted by HDH

Nope, never had a case of the shrivles.

HDH

sweet... wish I could say that. I don't have any probs except Tren. Luckily I know how to keep them full.

HDH; I agree, with a ten weeker.... stick with Test E only, and nolva/clomid for PCT.

Read through some of the Stickies.... those bros took the time to post up a wealth of information that is solid!! From first and second cycle info. as well as PCT.