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Hey Bro's, I am gonna start a cycle of 40mg d-bol ed for 6wks., eq 500mg wk and enanthate 500mg wk for 12 wks. I usually take nolva starting about the 3rd week to hold off any gyno sides and then use clomid pc. Is there something else I should be using or is this sufficient? The reason I ask is because of all the things I am reading about HCG but I don't know anything about HCG for pct.
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The main hindrance to recovery is testicular atrophy(Even if your nuts don't shrink after 2 weeks they are starting to suffer),,,The HTPA can recover in a week to 10 days,,,but without proper HCG use recovery can stretch to 3-4 weeks or more(when its a looong cycle),,,If you keep your jewels from shutting down then they're ready to work naturally when you come off,,,Use it during the cycle or at least do it right after the last shot,,,Try 500iu's ed to start,,,but experiment,,,For some 500 works fine,,,Myself I do 500iu's ed throughout the cycle,,,Continue til all the esters have cleared,,,then start your Clomid/Nolva therapy,,,VDC
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Here's a bit to add to this concerning Nolva and ari that I got from a post from Einstein:

Every cycle should use at least 0.25mg/day of adex and 10mg/day of nolva....ALL the way through, including pct, with the exception that nolva gets bumped to 20mg/day and clomid is added. An AI during a cycle as well as pct serves many purposes (controlling estrogen, increasing IGF-1, reducing SHBG, and expediting HPTA recovery).

So as it stands now I am doing 10mg Nolva ed,,,.25mg of Ari ed,,,and 500iu's of HCG ed,,,Feeling good,,,VDC
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