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Old 12-14-2004, 02:16 PM
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Max I have a question for you. I recently went of rHGH for 6 weeks after being on it for 1.8 years straight from doses between 2-5iu ED. I just stared back up at 5iu ED since I've gained about 5lbs of stomach fat back. I'm a little concerned that running it the way I have been will shut down my natural production permantly, as I'm only 33 years old. What light can you shed on this?
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Very good question. There's no doubt but what exogenous HGH, even at low doses, suppresses endogenous HGH. (see the following, recent study) However, does long term exogenous HGH permanently suppress your natural GH production... I really don't know.

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1: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2004 Aug;89(8):3956-64.

Changes in free rather than total insulin-like growth factor-I enhance insulin sensitivity and suppress endogenous peak growth hormone (GH) release following short-term low-dose GH administration in young healthy adults.

Yuen K, Frystyk J, Umpleby M, Fryklund L, Dunger D.

Department of Paediatrics, University of Cambridge, Cambridge CB2 2QQ, United Kingdom.

High-dose GH administration is commonly associated with impaired insulin sensitivity (S(I)) in humans. Paradoxically we have shown that low-dose GH (1.7 microg/kg.d) administration enhances beta-cell function in young healthy adults.

In the present double-blind, placebo-controlled, cross-over study, we explored the physiological effects of this low GH dose on glucose metabolism in 12 young healthy adults (seven males, 19-29 yr).
At pretreatment and after each 14-d treatment block, overnight metabolic profiles were assessed followed by a hyperinsulinemic euglycemic clamp, whereas fasting blood samples were collected weekly.In subjects treated with GH first (group A, n = 6), GH treatment increased total IGF-I (P < 0.05) and IGF binding protein-3 (P < 0.01) after 7 d, but these levels subsequently returned to pretreatment levels after 14 d. In contrast, free IGF-I increased (P < 0.05), and overnight GH pulse peak amplitude decreased (P < 0.01) after 14 d. In subjects treated with placebo first (group B, n = 6), all biochemical parameters were unchanged after placebo treatment, whereas the changes in free and total IGF-I were similar to those of group A after GH treatment. Combined clamp data from both groups A and B (n = 12) showed that 14-d GH treatment decreased overnight plasma insulin levels (P < 0.02) and hepatic glucose appearance (P < 0.05) and increased S(I) (P < 0.01). Of note, the GH-induced changes in S(I) positively correlated with the changes in free IGF-I (r = 0.72, P < 0.01).
In conclusion, low-dose GH administration enhanced S(I) and suppressed endogenous peak GH release, and we hypothesize that these effects are the direct result of increased serum levels of free IGF-I.

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PMID: 15292333 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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What is the consequence of low GH production?

Stopping using AAS was in good part due to very hard recovery periods.
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