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03-19-2004, 01:57 PM
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| | Question about 1st Cycle, Sust only... If I go with the first cycle you posted, the 500 mg of Sustanon for 8 weeks, is the recovery cycle information you posted applicable? Or is it only applicable/needed for cycles 2 and 3?
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Wamozart. | 
03-19-2004, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wamozart If I go with the first cycle you posted, the 500 mg of Sustanon for 8 weeks, is the recovery cycle information you posted applicable? Or is it only applicable/needed for cycles 2 and 3?
Thanks,
Wamozart. | Yes, the recovery will be the same. | 
04-08-2004, 12:04 PM
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04-12-2004, 10:44 PM
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| | | For PCT should the clomid be taken all at once or spread out over the day? | 
04-13-2004, 06:08 PM
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| | | All at once... just take it before bed. | 
04-18-2004, 04:20 AM
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| | | Couple Questions
1. Why is Test so important to take with each cycle?
2. If I take Sust how will it affect my temper in comparison to say Deca? Acne?
3. Is this the way to go if I don't want to get super huge? I just want to add 10-15 lbs max and lean down...I'm 5'11'' ~210
Thanks out to Phreezer for the great mini newbie guide!! | 
05-29-2004, 03:04 PM
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| | | good post | 
06-04-2004, 02:07 PM
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| | | Great read...this is just what I was looking for. | 
06-16-2004, 09:36 PM
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| | | If I wanted to take Winstrol (1st cycle ever) when should it be taken (before workout or after) how many cc's (*I 'm not sure of the conversion to ml*) and should I increase the amounts? If so, how much(increase dosage or times taken per week). I'm 5'9, 185-195 depening on the week. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. | 
06-16-2004, 09:48 PM
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| | | No drinking right? | 
06-17-2004, 12:22 AM
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| | | First how old are you?
And I would not recommend winstrol as a first cycle... You can see what I recommend for a first cycle.. I hate winstrol with a passion...
But to answer your question.. usualy WInstrol is either 50mg per ML or 100mg Per Ml.. and 1 ml = 1 cc | 
06-17-2004, 01:21 PM
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| | | I'm 25, it was recommended by a friend, so that's what I got. He's quite a bit bigger than I'd like to be and has been cycling on and off for years so I assumed that the amounts he uses (and the frequency ) would be different for someone in my position. BTW Great post, very informative. Thanks. | 
06-23-2004, 12:28 PM
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| | | isent it waste to run deca for only 6 week? it takes 4 weeks to kick in. | 
06-23-2004, 09:49 PM
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| | | Kickass info here.
One question though. I'm considering trying cycle #3, are the dosages of Sust and Deca close to being set in stone for all bodyweights, or could a big guy (250lb) step it up a bit (125%) and a skinny guy (160lb) tone it down to around 75%? I ask because I'm not going at this alone, and my friend (yes, he actually does exist) and I are wary of inproper dosing on our first go.
Just trying to cover all bases before sampling the forbidden fruit. | 
06-23-2004, 10:07 PM
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| | | I'd say those dosages are fine as an all around figure...believe me on your first cycle...500mg test + 300mg deca + 30mg Dbol will make you grow nicely..
Quevedo... this cycle is intended for less experienced users and as an introductory into using anabolics.... Anyone will do well on 6 weeks of deca for their first cycle...and I don't really buy into that "4" weeks to kick in stuff.... And another thing to consider...it will take nearly two weeks for that deca to clear after he stops administering..so it's about 2 months of using gear all the way around...
I've done this cycle MANY MANY times myself.... and it has always been succesful for me. | 
06-24-2004, 10:15 AM
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| | | im gonna do the cycle. it will be my second cycle. the first was just omna 250 e4d for 10 weeks. will your cycle work good for me? | 
06-25-2004, 12:30 AM
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| | | I believe that it will work nicely for you...
Why don't you keep us posted how it goes? Remember to eat alot, sleep a lot, and avoid the ol' alcohal as much as possible.... | 
06-25-2004, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Phreezer avoid the ol' alcohal as much as possible.... | I'm a pretty big beer drinker, almost all of which is very (8%-12%) high alcohol/high calorie beer. I can't stand macro-brewed piss. Will drinking a couple of times a week mess me up (not ever getting hammered), and how? | 
06-25-2004, 02:56 AM
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| | | Wouldnt it be best to start HCG when the gear is out of your system? for test enth. it would be lets say 1 to 2 weeks? why did you put next day of last injection? or am i mistaken? | 
06-25-2004, 10:29 PM
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| | | You want to end the hcg the same time the Test clears your system...hCG can and does suppress you... The ideal goal is to be back and full and ready to go just as the test clears..this way your body is ready to start producing test again...just as the synthetic clears...
WRT to alcohal...Like anything else..done in moderation it's fine... but going out and getting piss drunk has a very negative effect on the CNS and on cortisol.. | 
06-27-2004, 12:48 AM
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| | | *****"" it is possable to gain more lean mass and actually end a cycle weighing a fair amount more than when you started and have a lower body fat%*****""
Any more suggestions on how to accomplish this mission besides cardio 2x3 weekly for 35-40min.??? Like diet alterations, drug selection, etc......Thanks.  | 
06-27-2004, 12:11 PM
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| | | ok phreezer. i can´t get my hands on hcg. does it matter? if i run the clomid therapy you´ve posted, it´s all good? =) | | | |