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**Phreezer** · #76 (**permalink**) 10-02-2004, 10:00 PM

1. Select a site on the outer upper arm, anterior thigh, abdomen or upper buttocks without excessive pigment, nodules, lesions or hair. Select a site that has not recently been used.

2. Cleanse area with an alcohol swab, wiping with firm pressure from injection site outward in a circular motion. Allow skin to dry.

3. Hold needle in the dominant hand like a dart or pencil.

4. Pull cover straight off the needle with non-dominant hand. Use the thumb and forefinger of the same hand to grab and bunch the area surrounding the injection site.

5. With dominant hand, inject the needle quickly at a 45-90 degree angle depending on the amount of fatty tissue and its turgor and length of the needle. A dart-like motion is least uncomfortable.

6. After needle is inserted, release skin with non-dominent hand. Place hand at end of the barrel to steady it. Slide dominant hand to barrel.

7. pull back on the plunger about a half to one inch for 5 seconds to aspirate for blood. (look for a small airbubble to come into the syringe barrel while pulling back, if blood comes into the syringe barrel while pulling back on the plunger, remove needle and try again.

8. Inject medication slowly.

9. Withdraw needle quickly at the same angle it which it was inserted.

10. Massage area gently with alcohol swab if indicated. (Do not massage hcg HGH or insulin if doing aSubcutaneous injection.)

11. Discard needle in sharps container without recapping.

NEXT answer... Yes, you only need to be using one of the PCT recovery cycles I mentioned...

I am not a drug dealer nor am I a hook up for drug deals... This site is for role playing purposes only... what you do on your own is no concern or business of mine.

Brian · #77 (**permalink**) 10-04-2004, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Phreezer

1. Select a site on the outer upper arm, anterior thigh, abdomen or upper buttocks without excessive pigment, nodules, lesions or hair. Select a site that has not recently been used.

2. Cleanse area with an alcohol swab, wiping with firm pressure from injection site outward in a circular motion. Allow skin to dry.

3. Hold needle in the dominant hand like a dart or pencil.

4. Pull cover straight off the needle with non-dominant hand. Use the thumb and forefinger of the same hand to grab and bunch the area surrounding the injection site.

5. With dominant hand, inject the needle quickly at a 45-90 degree angle depending on the amount of fatty tissue and its turgor and length of the needle. A dart-like motion is least uncomfortable.

6. After needle is inserted, release skin with non-dominent hand. Place hand at end of the barrel to steady it. Slide dominant hand to barrel.

7. pull back on the plunger about a half to one inch for 5 seconds to aspirate for blood. (look for a small airbubble to come into the syringe barrel while pulling back, if blood comes into the syringe barrel while pulling back on the plunger, remove needle and try again.

8. Inject medication slowly.

9. Withdraw needle quickly at the same angle it which it was inserted.

10. Massage area gently with alcohol swab if indicated. (Do not massage hcg HGH or insulin if doing aSubcutaneous injection.)

11. Discard needle in sharps container without recapping.

NEXT answer... Yes, you only need to be using one of the PCT recovery cycles I mentioned...

I am not a drug dealer nor am I a hook up for drug deals... This site is for role playing purposes only... what you do on your own is no concern or business of mine.

THANKS so much, I appreciate all the detailed help! Now I need to use a new syringe everytime right? For cycle one how many syringes/needles should I order, and do I order the syringes with the needles and also a seperate order of needles?

For the PCT recovery cycle..I wanna do the Nolvadex one. So I start this the first day after my last injection? I remember once hearing that you wait three weeks until after your last injection because the injected testosterone will still be in your system (thus making the Nolvadex useless)? Is that true, if not lemme know the exact protocol! And also are their certain body types that are more prone to Gyno...I mean I'm pretty lean and am closer to the skinny side. And by gyno I'm guessing this is not just big prominent pecs but actual get a bra boobs? lol

also just for clarification...as a novice after getting off of cycle one I need to wait another eight weeks before I start another cylce?

again THANKS...

oh and...the syringe will fit all 250 cc's right?

**Phreezer** · #78 (**permalink**) 10-06-2004, 05:59 PM

You just do the math bro.. You figure up the half life of the steroid that you used... You take the the total number of injections that you took... it's not that hard.. that will tell you when the test will clear your system..

A good rule of thumb is Take as long off as you were on.. Eight weeks sounds pretty good for most people though..

250mg.. Not cc's... a cc is the same as a ML

Take care,

Phreezer

Fat Freddy · #79 (**permalink**) 10-07-2004, 04:58 AM

I'm sold on the benefit to side-effect ratio of test and dianabol, but I still have some concerns about using deca right now.

Can test and dianabol be combined to create a productive cycle without adding deca? I ask because I noticed you specified deca in both #2 and #3, but left out any more advanced choices without deca.

Are there any substitutes for deca which don't affect libido/sexual performance as much?

Thanks for your extremely helpful reply in advance.

Confused · #80 (**permalink**) 10-07-2004, 02:30 PM

First let me start by saying...GREAT Site! I have learned a lot.

However, after reading until I can't see. I do have a couple of newbie questions.

I'm 35, 5'6 165 and never done AAS. I was thinking starting off with 500mg of Sustanon, 50 mg of Proviron, 10 mg of Winstrol for 8 weeks and then end weeks 9 and 10 with H.C.G.

Do I need to consider anything else to minimize acne, or man boobs..ewww.

I am also going Mexico to pick up my supplies...any idea what is a "normal" price down there? Are AAS like Cuban's...ok to have as long as you didn't buy them? Will I be hassled by Customs coming back across? Am I better off mailing them home?

Thanks again,

**Phreezer** · #81 (**permalink**) 10-08-2004, 05:32 PM

You can find the answers to all your questions using the search feature...

I have no idea what to tell you wrt to crossing the border. I do not help peope obtain drugs.

Coldfire81 · #82 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 05:45 AM

Phreezer: With cycle number 3, could you take only Arimedex and clomid for post cycle therapy. If so, i know .5mg arimedex ed durring cycle will do, but how much clomid should be taken, and when?

T-Dez · #83 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 11:38 AM

Phreezer, when you say 500mg Sustanon/ew , 250mg per injection, is that 250 eod, or every2 days

**Phreezer** · #84 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Dez

Phreezer, when you say 500mg Sustanon/ew , 250mg per injection, is that 250 eod, or every2 days

EW = Every Week ..... So if you're taking 500mg Each week, then you would take two shots for the Entire week... 250mg on Mon and 250mg on Thursday.

**Phreezer** · #85 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldfire81

Phreezer: With cycle number 3, could you take only Arimedex and clomid for post cycle therapy. If so, i know .5mg arimedex ed durring cycle will do, but how much clomid should be taken, and when?

You could, but I don't really see the point in taking them together.. You might take .5mg of Arimidex EOD throughout the cycle... and then start taking clomid whent he cycle was over... Clomid will stimulate LH production where Arimidex doesn't... They are both anti-e's so taking the two at the same time would be kind of pointless.

Coldfire81 · #86 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 04:10 PM

Ok, so taking arimedex alone as a anti-e would be fine. Is there anything else that would be needed to take. What about getting natural test levels back up to normal?

**Phreezer** · #87 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldfire81

Ok, so taking arimedex alone as a anti-e would be fine. Is there anything else that would be needed to take. What about getting natural test levels back up to normal?

Why don't you read the sticky.."My thoughts on Post cycle Recovery" .. it's a sticky next to this one.

Coldfire81 · #88 (**permalink**) 10-09-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Phreezer

Why don't you read the sticky.."My thoughts on Post cycle Recovery" .. it's a sticky next to this one.

Thanks i'll do that. I didn't notice that one there.

Brian · #89 (**permalink**) 10-18-2004, 02:43 AM

Phreezer, the one thing I was worried about the most was the injection, but I have really done OK on that with no issues thus far (I have done two so far). What my problem is, is that I have having trouble (of all things) drawing the oil. I practiced with water first to get used to drawing, which was really easy, but then with the sustanon it was nearly impossible. After struggling with it for a while I finally got some in there but I think I ended up losing at least 40% of the product (ouch, I Know). It seems once you draw once you have to get all you can get, because you can't draw again with the same syringe. I find it hard to balance the small 1ml bottle while pulling back on the plunger and tilting the sustanon ampoule. does this just happen to beginners or is there something I'm missing that will make drawing easier (even tried running the ampoule under hot water). Thanks.....

**Phreezer** · #90 (**permalink**) 10-19-2004, 12:16 AM

I don't really understand why you're having a problem.. especially if you're heating the oil under the sink first.. What size needle (gauge and length are you using?)

Brian · #91 (**permalink**) 10-19-2004, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Phreezer

I don't really understand why you're having a problem.. especially if you're heating the oil under the sink first.. What size needle (gauge and length are you using?)

23G x 1.5"

It seriously feels like I am trying to draw cement. My technique must be way off or how long should I be leaving it under the warm water?

Brian · #92 (**permalink**) 10-22-2004, 03:45 AM

Third time's a charm...no problem drawing this time, figured out what I was doing wrong and it's all good now... thanks again for the help

**Phreezer** · #93 (**permalink**) 10-23-2004, 03:02 AM

glad you got it figured out bro...

Metalsmith40 · #94 (**permalink**) 10-29-2004, 01:06 PM

First, thanks for the great info and all of the time you have put into this forum. I have been reading a lot of the archives and props to you for tons of good info.

I need some help. I saw you first timers cycle and have some questions. Here is some background on me: 5'8" 170 40years old. 8 years ago I hurt my back bad. Felt sorry for myself, quit lifting and gained about 45lbs. Two years ago I got off my ass and into the gym. I have since lost almost all of the weight I put on, and am nearly back up in strength. I use to be fairly ripped, but now I am total flabby boy. And I can't seem to get that pump I used to get even from strip sets. I know that my hormone levels probably changed since I last lifted. I would really like to get that cut back. Maybe a little mass, but more cut. I eat 5x per day alternating simple carbs and protein. about 80-85% of my calories are protein or aminos. I have tried some prohormones with no results. Is the first beginers cycle right for me, or should I add something like winny? And how in the world do I ask someone if they can sell me gear? I think I'd get pummled if I did that at the gym. Are any of these internet pharmacys reliable?

Dude, you rock

Metalsmith40 · #95 (**permalink**) 10-29-2004, 05:02 PM

Sorry, actually skip the very last part of my question. Don't want to get anyone in trouble.