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I am looking to start my first cycle but I am looking just to cut fat not put on size.
I am a pro fighter competing in mixed martial competitions. . My goal is to get lean as possible with out losing strength, speed, endurance est. est.….
I am 36
210lb (185lb is my fight weight)
5’9”
I think 10-15% body fat
I'm in a similar boat, being a sprinter, I need as much strength as I can get without putting on too much mass at all. Phreezer, do you think for our purposes, it is best too avoid sust, which tends to blow people up like a big water balloon? Would it not be best to use test prop instead, even though it has to be injected more frequently?
Do you think an 8 week cycle of 50mg test prop eod and 40mg of anavar would be a good first cycle for a sprinter, lighter weight powerlifter, boxer, wrestler etc.?
Thanks!
hey man
im lookin to gain ALLOt of str with moderate size , im 195 right now dont wanna be heavyer then 215 after a month that im off the gear.
iwas thinkin about doin
1-4 anadrol 75 mg ed
1-8 cypoinate 1 ml of 200 mg eod
6-10 premobolan 1 ml of 100mg eod
8-12 anavar (dont know dose at all)
then the clomid and and all the rest of the goodies , can anyone plz give me dosages and verify that my cycle is correct and would be optimal.
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hey man
im lookin to gain ALLOt of str with moderate size , im 195 right now dont wanna be heavyer then 215 after a month that im off the gear.
iwas thinkin about doin
1-4 anadrol 75 mg ed
1-8 cypoinate 1 ml of 200 mg eod
6-10 premobolan 1 ml of 100mg eod
8-12 anavar (dont know dose at all)
then the clomid and and all the rest of the goodies , can anyone plz give me dosages and verify that my cycle is correct and would be optimal.
Cyp has a long half life..shooting it EOD has no advantage at all ove bi-weekly. Just go with 400-600mg Weekly of Cyp.
75mg of Drol ED 1-4 and don't mess with the anavar. It's too mild to give any benefit to your current cycle. You won't notice it, and it's too expensive to just throw away like that. And if you can get real primo (doubtful, but okay) You can shoot bi-weekly on that as well. Try about 400mg Weekly, ending it about the same time as the Test.
This should be a pretty good cycle (kind of costly, but if you can afford it, go for it)
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Now for the above question about Sust.
Here's the deal boys, Sust is really no different than any other form of test out there. Sust causes no more water retention than other forms of longer esterfied testosterones like CYP, Enan, Decan. (prop or suspension being the exception).
If you're looking to get harder and stronger, you might try runing 100mg Susp or Prop EOD and anavar would do nicely, but if you want to save a few bucks, IMO 100mg Tren EOD would get you closer to the results you're lookng for than Anavar.
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Originally Posted by Black_Heart
I am looking to start my first cycle but I am looking just to cut fat not put on size.
I am a pro fighter competing in mixed martial competitions. . My goal is to get lean as possible with out losing strength, speed, endurance est. est.….
I am 36
210lb (185lb is my fight weight)
5’9”
I think 10-15% body fat
Then I recommend the same cycle.
100mg EOD prop or susp.
100mg EOD Tren
or 40mg Anavar ED
You could also winstrol (and I hate winstrol with a passion because it causes so many tendon problems) but you could take 100mg ED of ORAL winstrol or 50mg ED of injectable Winstrol instead of the tren or anavar to keep muscle and strength while dieting down.
Cyp has a long half life..shooting it EOD has no advantage at all ove bi-weekly. Just go with 400-600mg Weekly of Cyp.
75mg of Drol ED 1-4 and don't mess with the anavar. It's too mild to give any benefit to your current cycle. You won't notice it, and it's too expensive to just throw away like that. And if you can get real primo (doubtful, but okay) You can shoot bi-weekly on that as well. Try about 400mg Weekly, ending it about the same time as the Test.
This should be a pretty good cycle (kind of costly, but if you can afford it, go for it)
thanks phreezer for the quick responce , unfortunatly i already have everything baught , the anavar i got for the taper or to take after the cycle to make sure i loose minimal size and str. i am getting the premo from a reliable source so id say the chances of it beein real is good. i have 1100 mg of premo so how should i divide that up ?? and since i have the anavar how should i run it ?? i read 5 -8 tabs ed and when ? thansk allot for the quick replies again
Phreezer, over a period of 8 weeks, how much more strength do you think one would gain with the inclusion of 40mg of anavar along with the 100mg prop eod vs just taking 100mg test prop eod? Also, how much more mass do you think would be gained with the inclusion of 40mg anavar eod?
Thanks.
thanks phreezer for the quick responce , unfortunatly i already have everything baught , the anavar i got for the taper or to take after the cycle to make sure i loose minimal size and str. i am getting the premo from a reliable source so id say the chances of it beein real is good. i have 1100 mg of premo so how should i divide that up ?? and since i have the anavar how should i run it ?? i read 5 -8 tabs ed and when ? thansk allot for the quick replies again
o and in gnc they have these t3 thyroids that have anti estrogen agents and receptor blockers in em , do u think if i took thatwith my cycle it would mess anything up ( that is the thyroids stim t3 ) thanks again phreezer
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