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Old 03-01-2006, 10:22 PM
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If all you want is a little mass gain and you can't get it from workout or diet tweeking.. I would simply go with 100mg Prop EOD for 7-8 weeks. That should do you nicely and would have minimum side effects.

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Prop as in test propionate?
I got a prescription of test cyp from my doctor. Same thing right?
My question remains: why hot tren? are the sides so bad? what are they?
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Hey Phreezer, I was wondering if you could break down a beginner/intermediate cutting cycle for me. Haven't had much luck or clarity in searching the forum, as far as specifics go. My first four cycles of bulking were exactly what you posted in this thread, so I really appreciate and take heed on your advice. What do you suggest? And if I do decide another bulking, what can replace DECA because I hate deca?
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Prop as in test propionate?
I got a prescription of test cyp from my doctor. Same thing right?
My question remains: why hot tren? are the sides so bad? what are they?

Yes and No.. Test is test is test.. However, Prop has a much shorter half life and needs to be taken more frequant.. as such it does seem that a great many people report holding less water while using prop over enanthate or cypionate... (Not really sure how that could matter if you keep blood levels consistant.. but hey... who knows)

Prop has about a 48 hr half life where in cyp has about a 7-9 day half life... That's the main difference.. the length of time it spends in your body before being broken down..

Tren is not Test... it is VERY anabolic but as with every cycle.. test needs to be the base of every cycle.. Tren and Test is always a good choice for strength and a good choice for keeping muscle while in caloric deficit
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Tren and Test is always a good choice for strength and a good choice for keeping muscle while in caloric deficit
BINGO! How much tren do you run on a typical cycle with Sustanon?
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depends, i ran 75mgs ed my last summer cycle
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Great info Phreezer! Keep up the good work, and post on bro!
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Great thread!
I’m new to the game and I am an older guy, 47, in great shape, workout every day, etc.
About five years ago I played around with a stack of test and primo and getting decent results.
A guy I was working out with said I should throw in some deca, which I did. I had a very bad reaction, which ended me up in the hospital. Needless to say I stayed clear of anything until Aug of this year 06. I started taking SerostimHGH. I am getting very little results and I am getting frustrated! I wont take insulin to dangerous. I’m dancing around Masterbol which I have ordered and primobolin. Bottom line is I want to get a little more size and cut but just a bit. I want to be as safe as possible with no side effects. I’m thinking masteror and/or primobolin. Please help! confused:
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How offten would deca dick happen?
I read about deca dick here and got scared about it, so i decided to throw sustano to the 1 cycle right in the middle.
So here what I think would work, this is a 7 week cycle of deca alone so for weeks 3,4,5. I decided to add sustanon 250ml per week only for those 3 weeks and then start coming off dec and start HCG 5000ui day one and day 2 and 3 1500ui and after that clomid 100mg 1 day and 50 mg there after.

I dont know if this makes much sense but any halp will be very halpfull, I also think having nolvadex in hand would be great.

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Hey Phreezer,

I started a deca ony cycle before i found this web site. Anyhow, I would like to do a PCT of clomi and/or tamox . . .Any suggestions for dosages. Or when I should start the PCT.

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