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Cypionate vs. Sustanon for first cycle. Which is for efficient?
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Cypionate vs. Sustanon for first cycle. Which is for efficient?
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even though I hate sust.. It's a great article and benefits all wgo read it!!
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ok only expirienced people reply please ,
I have 40ml of cypionate
40ml enanthate
40ml omnadren
30ml deca
30ml EQ
50ml tren-A
20ml tren E
30ml Masteron
10ml winny
10ml suspension test
100 anadrol
300 5mg dbol
1 kit of hgh
I'm 18 yr old n lookig to do a 2nd cycle I'm 5'7 183 I want to gain as much mass as possible , my body genetically tends to be lean so I'm not so worried about getting bloated but I would like to be about 215 lean solid ripped muscle after this next cycle my problem is this...using the products listed above what should I take? How much ? And how long? And should I take all of it without a break? Or all in 1 cycle?
I'm 18 yrs old this will be my 2nd cycle I'm 5'7
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ok only expirienced people reply please ,
I have 40ml of cypionate
40ml enanthate
40ml omnadren
30ml deca
30ml EQ
50ml tren-A
20ml tren E
30ml Masteron
10ml winny
10ml suspension test
100 anadrol
300 5mg dbol
1 kit of hgh
I'm 18 yr old n lookig to do a 2nd cycle I'm 5'7 183 I want to gain as much mass as possible , my body genetically tends to be lean so I'm not so worried about getting bloated but I would like to be about 215 lean solid ripped muscle after this next cycle my problem is this...using the products listed above what should I take? How much ? And how long? And should I take all of it without a break? Or all in 1 cycle?
I'm 18 yrs old this will be my 2nd cycle I'm 5'7
In another thread you claim it will be your 3rd cycle.

Let me just say you should stay away from steroids as it is obvious you have no fucking clue what you are doing. We are not a source board, so don't ask for them.

Just go away, and chase girls at 18 jfc.
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"CYCLE ONE: So easy your grandmother might consider going on. This is a test only cycle. I am using Sustanon in this example but enanthate or cypionate can be used in the same manner. I like sustanon because it’s cheap, it’s readily available, it’s quick acting, and it’s very effective. Later on You’ll learn Sustanon is better EOD because of the proprionate in it, but for your First cycle, this method of BI weekly injections will be VERY effective.

Week 1-9: 500mg Sustanon
250mg per injection
. Alternate Glutes."

Why do you list the injectable dosages as mg if the syringes/vials go by ml? So its 500 mgs per week how would I figure out how many ml's that would be per day and total a week? My math sucks this might sound like a stupid question to some of you but any help will be great thanks.
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"CYCLE ONE: So easy your grandmother might consider going on. This is a test only cycle. I am using Sustanon in this example but enanthate or cypionate can be used in the same manner. I like sustanon because it’s cheap, it’s readily available, it’s quick acting, and it’s very effective. Later on You’ll learn Sustanon is better EOD because of the proprionate in it, but for your First cycle, this method of BI weekly injections will be VERY effective.

Week 1-9: 500mg Sustanon
250mg per injection
. Alternate Glutes."

Why do you list the injectable dosages as mg if the syringes/vials go by ml? So its 500 mgs per week how would I figure out how many ml's that would be per day and total a week? My math sucks this might sound like a stupid question to some of you but any help will be great thanks.
Sustanon is 250mg/ml, so in 1 ml there is 250 mg. mL is just a volume measurement, and only denotes the amount of drug if the concentration is known.
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"CYCLE ONE: So easy your grandmother might consider going on. This is a test only cycle. I am using Sustanon in this example but enanthate or cypionate can be used in the same manner. I like sustanon because it’s cheap, it’s readily available, it’s quick acting, and it’s very effective. Later on You’ll learn Sustanon is better EOD because of the proprionate in it, but for your First cycle, this method of BI weekly injections will be VERY effective.

Week 1-9: 500mg Sustanon
250mg per injection
. Alternate Glutes."

Why do you list the injectable dosages as mg if the syringes/vials go by ml? So its 500 mgs per week how would I figure out how many ml's that would be per day and total a week? My math sucks this might sound like a stupid question to some of you but any help will be great thanks.
If Sust is dosed at 250 mg per ml. And you need to do 500 mg per week. This is the breakdown:

2 ml per week total.

If you inject twice a week, you would simply inject 1 ml two times a week

If you inject every other day, you would want to inject .57 ml every other day (Basically this is just under the 6th little line out of the first 10 of 1 ml, or 6/10 ths of 1 ml, or roughly just a little over a half of a ml)

If you were so inclined to inject every day, you would need .285 ml/day...

I personally am doing 6/10 of a ml every other day of Sust...

If you need further assistance on the math or whatever, pm me. I would be happy to try and help out.
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Sustanon is 250mg/ml, so in 1 ml there is 250 mg. mL is just a volume measurement, and only denotes the amount of drug if the concentration is known.
Thanks for the reply guys so that would mean for example a 10 ml vial of Test E that is 200mgs/ml is 2000 total mgs correct? So if I wanted to do a 12 week cycle of Test E of 400 mgs per week and 4800 mgs total I would need three 10 ml vials which will equal 6000 mgs 1200 more mgs than I would need but no big deal is that correct though? Also staying on the same subject how much of the results could one expect to keep after finishing their 12 week cycle of Test E? One last question would it be better to take the anti estrogen such as nolvadex during the Test E cycle or after?

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Thanks for the reply guys so that would mean for example a 10 ml vial of Test E that is 200mgs/ml is 2000 total mgs correct? So if I wanted to do a 12 week cycle of Test E of 400 mgs per week and 4800 mgs total I would need three 10 ml vials which will equal 6000 mgs 1200 more mgs than I would need but no big deal is that correct though? Also staying on the same subject how much of the results could one expect to keep after finishing their 12 week cycle of Test E? One last question would it be better to take the anti estrogen such as nolvadex during the Test E cycle or after?

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Your math is correct. I am too new to answer the other questions.
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