Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on Phreezer's First cycle FAQ within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Originally Posted by DravenCherry
Hi, i am a newbie, i was wondering if by only taking an oral dose of ...
Hi, i am a newbie, i was wondering if by only taking an oral dose of d-anobol would give me good gains or do i need to take all what freezer said in his cycle to get good gains?
"D-Anabol", so-called metandesenolone? Son, that's not even real Dianabol, which is methandrostenolone & probably costs less.
IF you're over 21, of sound mind, been training for years, & seriously want a metamorphosis, listen to Phreezer & HDH. If not, why by all means, start popping those d-anabols.
I have a question, why isnt there protien or creatine in this guide? Are we suppose to take these with this cycle as if we were on a normal workout routine? Its probobly a really dumb question but phreezer didn't mention it.
I have a question, why isnt there protien or creatine in this guide? Are we suppose to take these with this cycle as if we were on a normal workout routine? Its probobly a really dumb question but phreezer didn't mention it.
This thread is about a first AAS cycle and proper use of anabolics. Just trying to keep it simple. You should checkout our Nutrition / Supplements Forum.
. I am doing 4 weeks oral [ Winst and D'bol ] and 8 weeks Sust, [ 4 weeks oral stopped already ] and now continue to have the remaining 4 weeks Sust. and now 5th eek of Sus, 250 mg x 2 - 500 mg.
though you recommend the remaining 4 weeks Sust should be 500mg [ twice per week]. therefore, my 1st Cycle is total 8 weeks only; with the remaining 4 weeks taking 500 mg Sus.
If I calculate correctly, my PCT should start, 8 weeks + 3 weeks [ wait for 3 weeks after last inject ] = 11 weeks, start on the 1st day of the 12th week, for 3 weeks. during this 3 weeks waiting period from teh last shot of Sus 250 mg, i need not to take anything right?
I am going to skip HCG on my PCT and I will take CLOmid and Nolvadex.; i can find both here.
does it matter if I take both of just take Clomid alone as my PCT
so my next cycle will be 17 weeks later. thanks for your input and comments
. I am doing 4 weeks oral [ Winst and D'bol ] and 8 weeks Sust, [ 4 weeks oral stopped already ] and now continue to have the remaining 4 weeks Sust. and now 5th eek of Sus, 250 mg x 2 - 500 mg.
though you recommend the remaining 4 weeks Sust should be 500mg [ twice per week]. therefore, my 1st Cycle is total 8 weeks only; with the remaining 4 weeks taking 500 mg Sus.
If I calculate correctly, my PCT should start, 8 weeks + 3 weeks [ wait for 3 weeks after last inject ] = 11 weeks, start on the 1st day of the 12th week, for 3 weeks. during this 3 weeks waiting period from teh last shot of Sus 250 mg, i need not to take anything right?
I am going to skip HCG on my PCT and I will take CLOmid and Nolvadex.; i can find both here.
does it matter if I take both of just take Clomid alone as my PCT
so my next cycle will be 17 weeks later. thanks for your input and comments
Have a nice weekend.....
KB
Correct, take nothing for the 3 weeks. If you decide to run just one ancillary for PCT, I would use the Nolva. At the time this thread was started there was not a lot of info on Nolva for PCT. Looks like we might need an update.
As far as your cycle is concerned, It would have been better to run the D-bol for the first 4 weeks and the Winny for the last 4 (meaning start Winny at week 7). The Winny would clear your system the same time as the Sus and the end results would have been more to your liking
Correct, take nothing for the 3 weeks. If you decide to run just one ancillary for PCT, I would use the Nolva. At the time this thread was started there was not a lot of info on Nolva for PCT. Looks like we might need an update.
As far as your cycle is concerned, It would have been better to run the D-bol for the first 4 weeks and the Winny for the last 4 (meaning start Winny at week 7). The Winny would clear your system the same time as the Sus and the end results would have been more to your liking
HDH
HI HDH
Super Super thanks anyway.
that means you will recommend Nolva than Clomid. Here NOlva costs alittle more expensive than Clomid. you are suggesting NOlva, only but not both clomid and Nolva. Am I correct ?
My 1st Cycle : I have ended the oral Winny Stanolozol for the 1st four weeks alongside with Dbol. Now, already the 5th week of Sus 500 mg on twice per week until the 8th week, then 3 weeks waiting and then 3 weeks for PCT on Nolva. Therefore, i can only start my 2nd cycle another 14 weeks later. then will take your advice, must say a very valuable advice
Let us know your results, Mr midstockbear, toward the end of your cycle.
Workout hard, sleep well, and eat plenty of protein.
Solo
HI SOLO
yes, i will...i have listed my stats in this thread, being 175 cm and 93 kgs. cannot use this weight as a milestone, since i have already bulked up from 87 kgs to 93 kgs, before i started my 1st cycle. until now, the 5th week of Sus.
HDH suggests me to use Nolva only and not Nolva + Clomid. I guess you are concurring with HDH, right/ I listen to you to skip HCG and arimidex for my 1st cycle.
i have to wait another 17 weeks or so before I can start my 2nd cycle.
much thanks anyway.you are GURU in this site. and teach me alot,.
KB
that means you will recommend Nolva than Clomid. Here NOlva costs alittle more expensive than Clomid. you are suggesting NOlva, only but not both clomid and Nolva. Am I correct ?
My 1st Cycle : I have ended the oral Winny Stanolozol for the 1st four weeks alongside with Dbol. Now, already the 5th week of Sus 500 mg on twice per week until the 8th week, then 3 weeks waiting and then 3 weeks for PCT on Nolva. Therefore, i can only start my 2nd cycle another 14 weeks later. then will take your advice, must say a very valuable advice
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