Please Critique Cycle - MESO-Rx

Touched · #1 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 08:19 PM

Hi! I'm just new to this board, but obviously a long time reader... who really isn't?
I'm a 21 year old male with dreams of firefighting. I've been training for about 5 years now and have decided to take the step into AAS supplementation. I'm one of those people who lives by the expression "go big or go home". With this attitude I've put countless months of time into deciding if AAS was right for me, and if so what kind best suited my needs which are currently for bulking. This is the cycle i've sketched in pencil to run, always looking for input and suggestions. Thanks!

Preloading Phase
Week 1

Standardized Milk Thistle 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 5g/ ED

AAS Phase
Week 1

Anadrol 50mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 2

Anadrol 150mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 3

Anadrol 100mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 4

Anadrol 50mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Weeks 5-10

Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 11

Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Post Cycle Therapy
Weeks 12&13

Nolvadex 40mg/ ED
Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED
Tribulus 1.5g/ ED
NxCare T3 6 caps/ED
MuscleTech Anator P70

Weeks 14&15

Nolvadex 20mg/ ED
Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED
Tribulus 1.5g/ ED
MuscleTech Anator P70

Weeks 16&17

Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED
Tribulus 1.5g/ ED
NxCare Anavol 6 caps/ED

The reason the NxCare T3 and Anavol is only ran so short is simply due to the fact that i currently only possess half a bottles from previously interrupted cycles. The Anator P70 i hypothesized is the superior of the two creatine products so i ran that first to help better maintain my gains. Included in my intake is Mammoth 2500, Mega Men's, Glycocarb, whey protein and whatever else i decide for the time.

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

And thanks again! This board has helped me out tremendously in my quest for knowledge and the truth about AAS.

terrorizer2 · #2 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 08:35 PM

I would not jump from 50mg to 150mg with the anadrol.Do 100mg instead as there can be a big jump in sides at 150mg expecially if it is good proper dosed anadrol.You won't need that high a dose on a first cycle.

I would also add another couple of weeks nolvadex on the end of your PCT.You would need at least six weeks nolvadex.

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Touched · #3 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 08:53 PM

The bottle contains 100 25mg caps of anadrol. Should i stretch it out then? How would the dosing look like? Thanks alot

Lockk · #4 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 09:19 PM

Honestly at 21 you have so much natural Test and GH flying around inside you already I would recomend not running aas yet. Get 2-3 more years training and EATING under your belt then consider it.

That being said I doubt that anything I say or anyone else will change your mind so...

Don't fluctuate the dosage on the anadrol run it at 75 mg a day till you use up what you listed you have (apprx 5wk) the Test-E is fine at 500mg. Nolva for PCT is fine for this cycle.

rpmjr19 · #5 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lockk

Honestly at 21 you have so much natural Test and GH flying around inside you already I would recomend not running aas yet. Get 2-3 more years training and EATING under your belt then consider it.

That being said I doubt that anything I say or anyone else will change your mind so...

Don't fluctuate the dosage on the anadrol run it at 75 mg a day till you use up what you listed you have (apprx 5wk) the Test-E is fine at 500mg. Nolva for PCT is fine for this cycle.

I think it's ok to use AAS at 21, thats about the time most guys are TOTALLY done growing and Test will start to subside.

ForemanRules · #6 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Touched

Hi! I'm just new to this board, but obviously a long time reader... who really isn't?
I'm a 21 year old male with dreams of firefighting. I've been training for about 5 years now and have decided to take the step into AAS supplementation. I'm one of those people who lives by the expression "go big or go home". With this attitude I've put countless months of time into deciding if AAS was right for me, and if so what kind best suited my needs which are currently for bulking. This is the cycle i've sketched in pencil to run, always looking for input and suggestions. Thanks!

Preloading Phase
Week 1

Standardized Milk Thistle 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 5g/ ED

AAS Phase
Week 1

Anadrol 50mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 2

Anadrol 150mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 3

Anadrol 100mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 4

Anadrol 50mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Weeks 5-10

Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

First off as a new firefighter you will be drug tested. Secondly why would you chose Anadrol??? It is one of the most dangerous sterods and something a newbie should never use.

TE at 400-500mg a week for 8-10 weeks is all you need.

Touched · #7 (**permalink**) 01-15-2007, 11:08 PM

I've got a bunch of years left before firefighting my friend. That is a long term goal, right now i m saving up for school, DZ license for driving fire trucks, and a down payment on a house. I'd also like to get my paramedic first so I'll be saving much longer than the gear will stay in my system. I should have probably also have mentioned this wil be my second cycle. When I was about 18 I made the stupid move of running some trenbolone acetate, so i feel a little more comfortable with what I'm doing now. But thanks alot for the concern and suggestions. More input would definately be appreciated to make a more educated decision, especially because of the mixed responses.

Rick Really · #8 (**permalink**) 01-16-2007, 02:30 AM

Looks well planned out and very solid to me. I think anadrol and test enth go well together. Maybe some saw palmetto during for the prostate?

Best thoughts your way for low stress, clean eating, and massive gains.

GeaR_and_SauCe · #9 (**permalink**) 01-16-2007, 04:04 AM

firefighters aren't tested for steroids....and nor should they be.

asapnutrition1 · #10 (**permalink**) 01-16-2007, 04:07 AM

Well you are trying to become a fire fighter and stack like this will make people wonder because of the massive gains you will make (mostly from water retention). Plus the extra 20lbs or more of water you may and likely will gain on a cycle like this may not take a bit getting use too.

Also I notice you don't plan to take any aromatase inhibitors or estrogen agonist/antagonist during your cycle and with Anadrol and Test you will not hold on to most of the gains after your cycle even with the PCT you plan to incoporate because you are not incorporating anything that will stimulate your FSH and LH at all after cycle ends.
Test and Anadrol converts to estrogen heavily and seriously depressing on HPTA axis.
Also I am not sold on the Muscle Tech Anator P70 at all.

I would save the Milk thristle, B5 and NAC till the second or third week of AAS cycle since taking before hand I don't think really will show any benefits and you really wont do a lot of damage to your liver at 50mg ed of Anadrol for the first week as long as you not taking NSAIDS and alcohol during these weeks and drinking at least a gallon of water daily.Save it till your second or third week of usage.

I don't see the benefits of incorporating of NxCare T-3 since that won't help you drop the water weight at all. Tribulus I don't is any good at all but too each its own.

Preloading Phase
Week 1

Standardized Milk Thistle 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 5g/ ED

AAS Phase
Week 1

Anadrol 50mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 2

Anadrol 150mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 3

Anadrol 100mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 4

Anadrol 50mg/ ED
Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Weeks 5-10

Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/ week
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Week 11

Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED

Post Cycle Therapy
Weeks 12&13

Nolvadex 40mg/ ED
Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED
Tribulus 1.5g/ ED
NxCare T3 6 caps/ED
MuscleTech Anator P70

Weeks 14&15

Nolvadex 20mg/ ED
Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED
Tribulus 1.5g/ ED
MuscleTech Anator P70

Weeks 16&17

Standardized Milk Thistle 1g/ ED
NAC 1.2g/ ED
Vitamin B5 3g/ ED
Tribulus 1.5g/ ED
NxCare Anavol 6 caps/ED

The reason the NxCare T3 and Anavol is only ran so short is simply due to the fact that i currently only possess half a bottles from previously interrupted cycles. The Anator P70 i hypothesized is the superior of the two creatine products so i ran that first to help better maintain my gains. Included in my intake is Mammoth 2500, Mega Men's, Glycocarb, whey protein and whatever else i decide for the time.

Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

And thanks again! This board has helped me out tremendously in my quest for knowledge and the truth about AAS.[/quote]