Post Cycle Clomid +++++ Question

[pukebrain]

Hey, I'm finishing off this cycle in about 2 weeks.

Dbol - 40 mg Day - Weeks 1 to 5
Sustanon 250 - twice week - Weeks 1 to 10
Winny - 50 mg EOD - Weeks 6 to 12

I've done a tone of reading up on post cycles and I know that Winny has a 2 dayish half life and Sustanon has closer to 2 or 3 weeks in your body so I'm supposed to start Clomid about 2 to 3 weeks after last Sustanon injection.

The problem I have is that I have limited Clomid tabs. I have (24)-50mg tabs. I don't think this is enough to fully close out after what I read. I also have (90)-20mg tabs of Nolvadex.

Is there anything else I can take along with the small amount of Clomid I have to help get my own testosterone going post cycle? I heard that Ephedra may help. Anything else over-the-counter from the health store that may help or is Clomid the only way? I'm in Canada if this helps.

Thanks in advance for any help

[rook48]

first you should start PCT three weeks after your last injection of sust.

i would suggest getting more nolva and clomid from http://ibenutrition.com/.

you can also get some type of tribulus product which help bring test levels back up that's cheap from dpsnutrition.com.

how were your gains on this cycle?

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by pukebrain

Hey, I'm finishing off this cycle in about 2 weeks.

Dbol - 40 mg Day - Weeks 1 to 5
Sustanon 250 - twice week - Weeks 1 to 10
Winny - 50 mg EOD - Weeks 6 to 12

I've done a tone of reading up on post cycles and I know that Winny has a 2 dayish half life and Sustanon has closer to 2 or 3 weeks in your body so I'm supposed to start Clomid about 2 to 3 weeks after last Sustanon injection.

The problem I have is that I have limited Clomid tabs. I have (24)-50mg tabs. I don't think this is enough to fully close out after what I read. I also have (90)-20mg tabs of Nolvadex.

Is there anything else I can take along with the small amount of Clomid I have to help get my own testosterone going post cycle? I heard that Ephedra may help. Anything else over-the-counter from the health store that may help or is Clomid the only way? I'm in Canada if this helps.

Thanks in advance for any help

Do me a favor and never use the word Dayish again

[pukebrain]

More Nolva??? How should I run the Nolva Post Cycle? I can get more Clomid but can you give me a Post Cycle dosage list and schedule for it?

As for gains, I'm pretty happy. I started out at 178 pounds, 5'10". When I stopped the Dbol I was up to 192 (14 pound gain), I then dropped down to 188 after stopping the Dbol, probably due to less water retention I would assume. I'm now staying steady at 188 to 189 and I still have just over two weeks to go. My strength went up a lot and I would probably have to say that my body fat was reduced a bit. In any case, the mirror looks good so far, I hope I can Post Cycle this well and keep most of it.

Thanks for the help

[wrathe]

no hcg?

[pukebrain]

Sorry, I don't know what hcg is.

[rook48]

well, as for the HCG i don't really think it is necessary here. you could read phreezer's sticky on first cycle's i think he covers it, or search what swale says on it. it mimics LH production to get your testes going again.

as for the clomid and nolva. run them three weeks after your last injection as follows:
first 2 weeks:
clomid 100 mgs
nolva 40 mgs
next two weeks:
clomid 50 mgs
nolva 20 mgs

you can start the first day of clomid therapy with 300 mgs if you wish.

if you decide to run sust again it should be EOD because of the prop, and some also say run it about 16 weeks because one of the esters is longer (longer than enan or cyp).

[Deacon]

this was a fairly mild cycle you may be okay with 50 mgs of clomid per day for the 24 days or how ever many pills you say you have - recovery should be okay on that protocol - dont worry about HCG right now or adding nolva - if you were stacking tren or deca for longer cycles it is a must though to use them

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by rook48

well, as for the HCG i don't really think it is necessary here. you could read phreezer's sticky on first cycle's i think he covers it, or search what swale says on it. it mimics LH production to get your testes going again.

as for the clomid and nolva. run them three weeks after your last injection as follows:
first 2 weeks:
clomid 100 mgs
nolva 40 mgs
next two weeks:
clomid 50 mgs
nolva 20 mgs

you can start the first day of clomid therapy with 300 mgs if you wish.

if you decide to run sust again it should be EOD because of the prop, and some also say run it about 16 weeks because one of the esters is longer (longer than enan or cyp).

this is a good standard but maybe not needed with this mild cycle - many are finding that the higher doses of clomid are not that beneficial with these mild cycles and all they end up doing is feeling like little girls

[toc67guru]

run the clomid at 50mg til you run out alongside 40 mg/day of nolvodex for 24 days then reduce nolvodex for another 7-10 days at 20mg/day.
this will use up 34 nolvo tabs and all the clomid.

although this was a low dose cycle it was 14 weeks long if you take it it was sustanon you were using(active for up to 28 days after injection).getting more clomid will do no harm if you want to be sure running it at 100mg/day for 30 days if you feel it is necessary.

i agree you should use a quality tribulus supplement high in specifically protodioscin saponin% like thermolife's TRIBOSTEN,sopharma's TRIBESTAN or twinlabs TRIBULUS EXTREME.do not scrimp on price as it is a highly concentrated trib extract that is needed to get the desired results.

i recommend these trib supplements so much i feel like i should be receiving commission on their sales!

hcg mimics luetinising hormone which is released from the pituitary which signals the leydig cells in the testes to produce more endogenous(natural testosterone) it is good for a quick increase in testicle size if you have experienced a lot of testiclular atroph(shrinkage).

post me a pm if you need specific dosages etc.

i hope this helps pukebrain! (nice username)

[pukebrain]

Excellent, thanks for all of the help guys.