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Old 12-27-2003, 04:46 PM
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going to be starting my first cycle of 8 weeks of 300mg deca and 500mg sust weekly. now i know i need anti-e's. i have been reading the many posts on both clomid and nolvadex. everyone seems to be on one side of the fence or the other. i am not 100% sure of what each does, how much is needed and when. untill i can fully understand this stuff, i am wary of starting a cycle. please help a newbie guys. thanks
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get hold of some arimidex and take it at 0.5mg ED. some people get away with .25mg ED but seeing as this is your first cycle we don't know your predisposition for gyno. If you can get hold of femara instead, even better..... 2.5mg EOD worked well for me, even though many people suggest it ED.
Hold on to the nolva and clomid for post cycle recovery.

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As to your question about what these anti-e's do, think of it this way. Nolva and clomid compete for the estrogen receptor sites. In other words, they bind to the receptors and prevent the real estrogen from binding there, so you dont have estrogen related issues that you dont want, like bloat and gyno. So you still have lots of estrogen floating around, but the nolva/clomid prevents most of it from exerting its effects. The thing is, once you stop your nolva/clomid, the circulating estrogen will whack you hard.

so you gotta take:
arimidex, and femara do not merely prevent estrogen from working. They prevent aromatization. This means you reduce the amount of estrogen being produced by the body in the first place. Dont wait for signs of bloating and gyno before you start taking your anti-e's.

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If you got a bankroll in your pocket get the arimdex. I would just get the clomid and nolva. If your nips get itchy take 20mg nolva ed until it goes away. Then take 10mg a day. I usually run 200mg clomid first day with 20mg nolva on my pct.
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I like ldex for bloat but i would say have nolva on hand for sure. Take .5mg of ldex ed but if your nips get itchy take 80mg of nolva the first day and 40mg ed until it goes away..

Clomid isnt that great for gyno prevention but its good for bringing test levels back. But i run a clomid nolva mix post cycle -J
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