Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on prog gyno within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Originally Posted by HDH
I didn't think about the Proviron .
Parlodel (bromocriptine mesylate) is also an anti-prolactin along with ...
Parlodel (bromocriptine mesylate) is also an anti-prolactin along with Dostinex.
HDH
Well HDH it's ok that you didn't think about proviron because that stuff will do nothing to prevent progesterone induced gyno... absolutely worthless in that regard.
The only way it may be remotely beneficial is by slightly reducing estrogen and thereby providing a benefit however, this is not a good way to attempt to reduce progesterone induced gyno simply because the effect is so minimal and doesn't reduce progesterone levels that the gyno is unaffected.
Cabergoline has been shown in published studies to be more effective at reducing progesterone levels than bromocriptine.
B6 will do zero. Nobody I know of who's used B6 by itself reported any improvement and several years back it was widely touted and people used it to no benefit. Interestingly enough when I researched it I found published studies going back 25 years that confirmed B6 does NOT reduce progesterone levels.
Best regards,
MaxRep
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hmm...ive heard of people using b6 saying that it actually lowers the prolactin levels developed...tried looking for some validity behind this and couldnt find anything...
might try the b6 with some caber on hand just in case...can never be too safe..plus i wouldnt mind some of the glorified side effects
B6 will do zero. Nobody I know of who's used B6 by itself reported any improvement and several years back it was widely touted and people used it to no benefit. Interestingly enough when I researched it I found published studies going back 25 years that confirmed B6 does NOT reduce progesterone level
b6 has never been used by anybody in the situation (or actually worked if they did try) to reduce prog gyno....it has been used as more of a safety measure against it something to use to help prevent it from what i understand...but like i said there was no "facts" that i could find behind this just what ive heard from personal experience
The thread is about progesterone related gyno, not estrogen related gyno
I prefer Letro if I get gyno.
HDH
I am confused about the progesterone related gyno vs. estrogen related gyno. I have had pretty sore nips for the last 2 days. I'm using deca and test and anavar I took .62 mg letro yesterday for the gyno and also the fact that I'm holding a lot of water (gained 2 lbs. the last day alone and 24 lbs in 3 weeks.
Now I'm researching and seeing it may be progesterone related gyno or estrogen related gyno?
Is letro the wrong product because of the deca? Is it the right product because of the test? What to do?
I am confused about the progesterone related gyno vs. estrogen related gyno. I have had pretty sore nips for the last 2 days. I'm using deca and test and anavar I took .62 mg letro yesterday for the gyno and also the fact that I'm holding a lot of water (gained 2 lbs. the last day alone and 24 lbs in 3 weeks.
Now I'm researching and seeing it may be progesterone related gyno or estrogen related gyno?
Is letro the wrong product because of the deca? Is it the right product because of the test? What to do?
Keep using the Letro. It blocks the estrogen and estrogen is needed to support progesterone.
your body still needs some estrogen to function properly... just nuking the estrogen isn't the proper way to deal with it. Add the Cabaser to lower the progesterone. IMHO
your body still needs some estrogen to function properly... just nuking the estrogen isn't the proper way to deal with it. Add the Cabaser to lower the progesterone. IMHO
If he's got it now, he has to do what is necessary to get rid of it. He doesn't want to wait for Dostinex because it will get worse. I don't even think progesterone is the case here on 300mg of deca EW or I would have told him to up the letro to 2.5mg ED and order the dostinex. This is only the third week.
Thank you gentlemen, I appreciate your input. Heres' a little more info to clarify. My first 2 weeks I frontloaded with 600 mg deca, and the 3rd week 400mg deca and now am at 300mg week deca for rest of cycle. From the start and here on out it's been 400 mg wk test . I've also 210mg week anavar. I'm near the end of my 3rd week. I had a blood test before I started but have not had one since. So I don't know my blood levels or if it is progesterone related gyno vs. estrogen. Any suggestions with the additional info?
If the letro is working how soon should I expect the nip soreness to go away?
hmm...ive heard of people using b6 saying that it actually lowers the prolactin levels developed...tried looking for some validity behind this and couldnt find anything...
might try the b6 with some caber on hand just in case...can never be too safe..plus i wouldnt mind some of the glorified side effects
Now you're confusing progestagenic gyno with prolactin induced gyno. Our conversation up to this point has been regarding progesterone and gyno, not prolactin.
However, since you bring up prolactin... there are multiple studies showing B6 does nothing to reduce prolactin levels. The only study showing any sort of reduction in prolatin with b6 is when b6 was injected intraveinously.
JT, your nipple soreness with Letrozole should be greatly reduced after about one week.
Best regards,
MaxRep
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If he's got it now, he has to do what is necessary to get rid of it. He doesn't want to wait for Dostinex because it will get worse. I don't even think progesterone is the case here on 300mg of deca EW or I would have told him to up the letro to 2.5mg ED and order the dostinex. This is only the third week.
HDH
HDH: You are right; in regards to dealing with the gyno at hand.
I was just stating that bro's need to manage their estorgen; not totally eliminate it.
I have read so many people, on many boards telling bros to take nolva and letro throughout their cycle with out even knowing if they are gyno susceptible.
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