Prop. shots

[Motivated]

Can anyone tell me what is it about prop. that makes injections with it painful? Just started Bold. Prop. my right cheek and leg are on fire. I'm use to taking shots in the gluts but this..... What can I do to lessen the pain if anything?

[bobalou]

has something to do with the BA content...the higher the mg/ml the more BA they have to put in..hence more pain from the BA..correct me if I am wrong

[black0ut]

I know all too much about the pain after injection lol. Cut it with sterile oil. don't have ANY? make it, it's simple and worthwile. I do 1cc of CL's 650mg mix, and .75cc's of sterile oil, and now it's painless. W/o the oil, it was so painful my leg gave out walking down my steps, and i fell about 10 steps on my head, and couldn't walk for 2 days after that.

[Motivated]

Originally Posted by black0ut

I know all too much about the pain after injection lol. Cut it with sterile oil. don't have ANY? make it, it's simple and worthwile. I do 1cc of CL's 650mg mix, and .75cc's of sterile oil, and now it's painless. W/o the oil, it was so painful my leg gave out walking down my steps, and i fell about 10 steps on my head, and couldn't walk for 2 days after that.

I know all about that. Just call me hop-a-long. Anyways, could I cut it by doing the prop. with my test shot? If so, I believe I have an easy solution.

[jamesdal7]

Motivated,

Prop hurts because of the high BA content. I take 1 cc of prop everyday, so i had to find a way for it not to hurt. I take 1/2 of cc in each muscle. For example, 1/2 of cc in each butt cheak on mondays, 1/2 of cc in each quad on tuesdays, 1/2 cc in each shoulder on wednesdays, then back to glutes and so on and so on... Also, this is what i recommend to lessen the pain and avoid any chances of absesses(sp?) Here's what I do.

1. I get the gear ready first.

2. I get in the shower before injecting (make sure the water is VERY warm, not too hot but warm.

3. I get some anti-bacterial soap and rub the areas where i'm going to inject. I do this to kill any bacteria, I have a nurse friend that told me to do this to avoid any chance for absesses(sp?), she told me alchohol does not kill bacteria, that it only moves bacteria away, i didnt know that. I then get my needles, the alchol, cotten and wipe them down.

4. I get the alchol and cotten and wipe the muscle that im going to inject to.

5. Inject

6. After, get the cotten with alchol and rub the area.

7. After injecting, get back into the shower with warm water and rub the areas where you injected.

This might seem a lot but it takes me about 20 mins for this. After reading some posts on absesses, i dont want one. Hope this helps.

[Motivated]

Originally Posted by jamesdal7

Motivated,

Prop hurts because of the high BA content. I take 1 cc of prop everyday, so i had to find a way for it not to hurt. I take 1/2 of cc in each muscle. For example, 1/2 of cc in each butt cheak on mondays, 1/2 of cc in each quad on tuesdays, 1/2 cc in each shoulder on wednesdays, then back to glutes and so on and so on... Also, this is what i recommend to lessen the pain and avoid any chances of absesses(sp?) Here's what I do.

1. I get the gear ready first.

2. I get in the shower before injecting (make sure the water is VERY warm, not too hot but warm.

3. I get some anti-bacterial soap and rub the areas where i'm going to inject. I do this to kill any bacteria, I have a nurse friend that told me to do this to avoid any chance for absesses(sp?), she told me alchohol does not kill bacteria, that it only moves bacteria away, i didnt know that. I then get my needles, the alchol, cotten and wipe them down.

4. I get the alchol and cotten and wipe the muscle that im going to inject to.

5. Inject

6. After, get the cotten with alchol and rub the area.

7. After injecting, get back into the shower with warm water and rub the areas where you injected.

This might seem a lot but it takes me about 20 mins for this. After reading some posts on absesses, i dont want one. Hope this helps.

What a wealth of information!! I'm truly impressed. Thanks for the suggestions. I definitely plan on doing it.

[spillburt]

Originally Posted by jamesdal7

Motivated,

Prop hurts because of the high BA content. I take 1 cc of prop everyday, so i had to find a way for it not to hurt. I take 1/2 of cc in each muscle. For example, 1/2 of cc in each butt cheak on mondays, 1/2 of cc in each quad on tuesdays, 1/2 cc in each shoulder on wednesdays, then back to glutes and so on and so on... Also, this is what i recommend to lessen the pain and avoid any chances of absesses(sp?) Here's what I do.

1. I get the gear ready first.

2. I get in the shower before injecting (make sure the water is VERY warm, not too hot but warm.

3. I get some anti-bacterial soap and rub the areas where i'm going to inject. I do this to kill any bacteria, I have a nurse friend that told me to do this to avoid any chance for absesses(sp?), she told me alchohol does not kill bacteria, that it only moves bacteria away, i didnt know that. I then get my needles, the alchol, cotten and wipe them down.

4. I get the alchol and cotten and wipe the muscle that im going to inject to.

5. Inject

6. After, get the cotten with alchol and rub the area.

7. After injecting, get back into the shower with warm water and rub the areas where you injected.

This might seem a lot but it takes me about 20 mins for this. After reading some posts on absesses, i dont want one. Hope this helps.

There is a antiseptic medication you can use as a pre-wipe which surgeons use to clean the skin before surgery to reduce the risk of infection. It is called Chlorhexidine which you can buy over the counter under these brand names: Betasept, Calgon Vesta, Dyna-Hex, Hibiclens, Hibistat, Spectrum-4.

I try to inject slowly and with small amounts and rub it into the muscle to disperse afterwards.

Dude, the most painful place for me is the biceps. I have done home-brewed Fin @ 1cc and that shit hurt like a bitch. It didn't matter what I did. I couldn't straighten out my arm for like an hour and I could feel it all the way down my arm.

I had an absess once which was my fault. All I did was hot and cold compresses and warm baths and it went away quick. Having a baseball sized lump on your ass isn't too cool.

One more thing, I wipe down the rubber on the vial before withdrawing the fluid too just in case.

[jamesdal7]

Originally Posted by spillburt

There is a antiseptic medication you can use as a pre-wipe which surgeons use to clean the skin before surgery to reduce the risk of infection. It is called Chlorhexidine which you can buy over the counter under these brand names: Betasept, Calgon Vesta, Dyna-Hex, Hibiclens, Hibistat, Spectrum-4.

I try to inject slowly and with small amounts and rub it into the muscle to disperse afterwards.

Dude, the most painful place for me is the biceps. I have done home-brewed Fin @ 1cc and that shit hurt like a bitch. It didn't matter what I did. I couldn't straighten out my arm for like an hour and I could feel it all the way down my arm.

I had an absess once which was my fault. All I did was hot and cold compresses and warm baths and it went away quick. Having a baseball sized lump on your ass isn't too cool.

One more thing, I wipe down the rubber on the vial before withdrawing the fluid too just in case.

I also wipe down the rubber on the vial.
I have never injected in the bicep. Have you injected in the bicep before the Fina? My home brew fina has never caused me any pain. I have inject fina in the chest, tris, shoulders, quads, and have never had any pain. Injecting in the bicep looks like it would hurt.

[Vicious cycle]

Shoot slow and rub a lot. I also run the dart under hot water before injecting.

[muslhead]

While your pain from prop MAY be caused because of the high BA concentration it is not the case for most people. My prop and enanthate have the exact same BA concentration and prop hurts while the enanthate doesnt. If this is true then the pain is obviously not caused from the solvent. The reason is because prop comes out of the injected solution much easier than other longer esters after injected and the prop crystals are left within the muscle. These crystals are the cause of most prop pain.

MH

[Texas Ranger]

Good info!

[Motivated]

Originally Posted by muslhead

While your pain from prop MAY be caused because of the high BA concentration it is not the case for most people. My prop and enanthate have the exact same BA concentration and prop hurts while the enanthate doesnt. If this is true then the pain is obviously not caused from the solvent. The reason is because prop comes out of the injected solution much easier than other longer esters after injected and the prop crystals are left within the muscle. These crystals are the cause of most prop pain.

MH

Quite interesting!! Tell me, what happens to the crystals that are left within the muscle?

[muslhead]

Originally Posted by Motivated

Quite interesting!! Tell me, what happens to the crystals that are left within the muscle?

They eventually breakdown by the body and are absorbed into your system. Look at the consistency of the raw materials. Prop is a coarse, granular powder (much like sugar) while enanthate is a soft, gooey blob. It make sense that it would be much easier to breakdown and absorb a soft gooey blob than it would be hard, coarse crystals right?

MH

[Baby Faced Assasin]

I always just mix a cc of tren with a cc of prop. Painless.

[muslhead]

Originally Posted by Baby Faced Assasin

I always just mix a cc of tren with a cc of prop. Painless.

BBA- I agree as I always mix prop with something else as it seems to help regardless of what else you use (unless its suspension)
MH