Question About Dianabol

[leechalot]

I am a beginner trying to figure out the best cycle to start with. Unlike most people, I am not interested in bulking up too quickly- I don't want my gains to be too obvious to people who know me. I've been working out for about 6 months now, but I'm really frustrated with the poor results I've gotten. I constantly watch what I eat, I dring 2 or 3 protein shakes a day, and I do cardio 2 or 3 times a week, but my body still looks like a fairly average 30-year-old.
Basically I want to add maybe 10 pounds of good quality muscle over a couple/few months. I have found that Dianabol is fairly easy to get online, it's really cheap (US$40 for 100 5mg tabs on one site), and it's an oral, which I definitely prefer. However, I am aware of its highly androgenic properties, as well as the havoc it plays on the liver. Question is, if I were to take Dianabol by itself, and lower the dosage from the usual 25+mg/day down to, say 10-15mg/day (like I mentioned, I don't want quick gains), would I see any results? And would I still be likely to have problems with gyno if I did not supplement with Proviron or Nolvadex? Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Sack]

Originally Posted by leechalot

I am a beginner trying to figure out the best cycle to start with. Unlike most people, I am not interested in bulking up too quickly- I don't want my gains to be too obvious to people who know me. I've been working out for about 6 months now, but I'm really frustrated with the poor results I've gotten. I constantly watch what I eat, I dring 2 or 3 protein shakes a day, and I do cardio 2 or 3 times a week, but my body still looks like a fairly average 30-year-old.
Basically I want to add maybe 10 pounds of good quality muscle over a couple/few months. I have found that Dianabol is fairly easy to get online, it's really cheap (US$40 for 100 5mg tabs on one site), and it's an oral, which I definitely prefer. However, I am aware of its highly androgenic properties, as well as the havoc it plays on the liver. Question is, if I were to take Dianabol by itself, and lower the dosage from the usual 25+mg/day down to, say 10-15mg/day (like I mentioned, I don't want quick gains), would I see any results? And would I still be likely to have problems with gyno if I did not supplement with Proviron or Nolvadex? Any help is greatly appreciated.

If you want to acheive the results you posted dbol is not your drug. It is a drug used to bulk and that is it. your going to put on water no matter what, and gyno could be a problem even at that low dose. you would be better off just getting some sustanon, cyp or eth, it too is very cheap and less stressful on the liver. use 200-300mg of a test for 8 weeks and you will get the 10pds you want.

[j martini]

I would continue to train naturally there must be something wrong with your diet and training program. post your diet and training schedule just drinking 2-3 protein shakes a day doesnt constitute a good diet.

[big louie]

Originally Posted by j martini

I would continue to train naturally there must be something wrong with your diet and training program. post your diet and training schedule just drinking 2-3 protein shakes a day doesnt constitute a good diet.

bump'n martini's responce - i'd say stay drug free and rethink your diet.. 6 months? you're still leaning bro...

[leechalot]

My diet is as high-protein as possible, and usually pretty low-fat. I generally eat about 5 times a day, and drink protein in the morning, after workouts, and sometimes at night. My workout schedule consists of about 30-45min/day, 5 days a week. Usually it's lifting on Mon/Wed/Fri and cardio on Tues/Thurs. I'm also trying to lose about 5-8 pounds from my gut, which is proving to be a challenge.
Since I work out alone, I don't really have anybody to notice the small gains I HAVE gotten, with the exception of my wife (but I have to admit I'm not sure if she's just being nice).
Honestly I work out really hard, and always to failure, and I stick to my schedule pretty strictly. I know that genetics have a huge bearing on individual results, and maybe I'm just being too hard on myself, but I get so frigging frustrated sometimes when I feel like I'm getting nowhere.
One other thing I'm not too sure about is the fact that I lost a testicle to cancer a couple of years ago, and although the doctor said the other testicle was more than capable of keeping things regulated (sort of like losing a kidney I guess), I wonder sometimes if only having one testicle is inhibiting my body's ability to go into testosterone overdrive.
Any comments?

[jaysmithinwesson]

this is my opinion. by the time you do more research you would have been working out for another 6 months. so learn all you can about aas till then. and for gaining 10 pounds, first thing that caught my eye was your doing cardio...stop it.second, when i wana track my progress i use a fat caliper, a measuring tape, and a mirror if it is summer i go out in swim trunks and see if i turn heads, but not a scale. read all you can on this board and learn. ask questions and learn. good luck!