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Old 08-14-2005, 04:32 PM
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Is there any reason why people dont use menotropins (ie menagon, perganol, etc) instead of HCG, during PCT? Since menotropins contain actual LH and FSH and they dont convert to estrogen, shouldnt they be superior to HCG for recovery purposes?

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Is there any reason why people dont use menotropins (ie menagon, perganol, etc) instead of HCG, during PCT? Since menotropins contain actual LH and FSH and they dont convert to estrogen, shouldnt they be superior to HCG for recovery purposes?

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For one, the price of perganol is much higher than HCG, and the availability on the black market is near zero.
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ok then, price and availability aside, it is still theoretically better than hcg for recovery? where i live i can buy pretty much anything from the chemist without a script, also its pretty cheap to.
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ok then, price and availability aside, it is still theoretically better than hcg for recovery? where i live i can buy pretty much anything from the chemist without a script, also its pretty cheap to.
Mentropins such as Perganol contain 150i.u. LH and 150i.u. FSH

The common required dose for HCG is 500i.u. twice per week.

LH stimulates the nuts to produce Testosterone while FSH stimulate the nuts to produce sperm.

If I could get Mentropin cheap, I would use it in conjunction with HCG. The additon of FSH can only help to bring the nuts back to proper functioning.
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Here's an aritcle that was originally published in IronMan mag a few years ago. It does indicate that menotropins can be helpful in restoring Testosterone to normal levels:

Can T levels be restored in former anabolic steroid users?

The Study: Two hypogonadal former anabolic steroid users were studied. Normal levels of LH are >3.6 IU/L and Testosterone are 300—1000 ng/dl. Former anabolic steroid users often have suppressed levels of both.

The Results: Subject #1 is a 6', 206lb former user of 500—2000+ grams per week of anabolics. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=191ng/dl. This suject underwent a 32 day treatment of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=5.2IU/L, Test=1072 ng/dl.

Subject #2 is a 5'10", 184lb male who used 400 mg per week of nandrolone. His baseline numbers were: LH<1IU/L, Test=45ng/dl. This subject's 32 day treatment consisted of 2500 IU of HCG every 4 days, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. There was no change. He underwent another treatment consisting of 60 days of 5000 IU of HCG every 4 days for 4 injections, then 2500 IU every 4 days for 4 injections, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex per day. Still, no change. For the next 32 days, this subject received 5000 IU of HCG every other day for 6 injections, then 2500 IU every other day for 6 injections given with 150 IU of menotropins, 50 mg of clomid 2 times per day, and 10 mg nolvadex 2 times per day. 15 days after treatment his numbers were: LH=9.8IU/L, Test=507 ng/dl.(20)
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I've wondered the same thing myself. FSH will maintain sperm production, but I believe has other beneficial effects on the HPTA as well. I know that IP is offering HMG in addition to HCG, so it's out there.
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