Question about propecia for hairloss?

[kaly50]

i have read somewhere on this forum that taking propecia or finastride while taking deca will actually make your hair fall out much faster. well, i am finishing my deca steroid of my deca and test cycle. so i will continue the test a little while longer. my question is since deca is in your system for a long time (over a year) would it be ok to take propecia without it being harmful towards your hair. or would you have to wait a certain amount of time to start taking propecia on another cycle not including deca?

[PDP]

No. Taking Finasteride with Deca will not make your hair fall out much faster. In fact, I recommend using Finasteride in all cycles containing Test (even if Deca is being used) if you are really concerned about hairloss and acne. Now having said that, using finasteride will NOT stop hairloss in an AAS cycle if you are predisposed to MPB.

Although some have stated that metabolites of Nandrolone may stay in ones system for many months, you do not need to take this into consideration when deciding when Deca will "clear". Deca will not be active in your body, at least from an anabolic point of view, after about 3-4 weeks from your last injection.

[Jono1971]

does propecia help aas induced acne?

[PDP]

Yes it can. DHT (and other androgens) are a major contributing cause of acne. Reducing these compunds can help, a bit, in reducing acne. In fact early trails of Finateride were geared towards assessing the drug as an anti-acne medication. The results were not substantial enough to warrant the drugs being marketed as such.

[GDSGFT]

I posted this on another board...

It's rather simple, generally if it's pimples, it's caused by sweat and bacteria. Now if it's acne or cystic acne, it's generally caused by a hormone imbalancement, seeing as you're 20, you're still going through your growing phase. Your best bet is to see your GP about getting a DHT blood test done.

Acne is a disorder of keratinization, meaning the development of cells lining the sebaceous gland is faulty.

These cell walls are sticky, binding together, plugging the gland rather than easily exfoliating themselves onto the surface.

Despite the presence of this plug, the sebaceous glands, triggered by DHT, the active form of testosterone, continue to secrete sebum.

Now this is just one of many reasons as to what it could be. But in your case, it's probably the most likely.

Speak to your GP and see what he/she has to say about it. I'm currently using a DHT inhibitor (finasteride 1.25mg ED) and my cystic acne is slowly going. I'm still getting small pimples, but nothing to write home about.

Be aware that Finasteride aka Proscar/Propecia causes Erectile Dysfunction in many males that use it. Studies show that it only affects 2% of users, but I've been around the boards and that's a load of shit, it's more around the 20% mark. But again, the side effects are temporary.

All the best

"Now having said that, using finasteride will NOT stop hairloss in an AAS cycle if you are predisposed to MPB."

I'd like to see some paperwork which backs that up as I find it rather hard to believe.

The reason why we lose our hair on AAS is mainly due to excess DHT levels in our bodies. Regardless on if someone is predisposed to MPB or not, using a DHT inhibitation regime whilst on cycle will surely stop/slow down ones hairloss problem.

[Jono1971]

I am 33 and still suffer mild acne, daily use of benzoyl peroxide keeps it in check

[Gear_Up]

Originally Posted by GDSGFT

"Now having said that, using finasteride will NOT stop hairloss in an AAS cycle if you are predisposed to MPB."

I'd like to see some paperwork which backs that up as I find it rather hard to believe.

The reason why we lose our hair on AAS is mainly due to excess DHT levels in our bodies. Regardless on if someone is predisposed to MPB or not, using a DHT inhibitation regime whilst on cycle will surely stop/slow down ones hairloss problem.

I must agree with you. I read an artical about identical twins. One lost his nuts due to an accident when he was young. They are now full grown men, and the one who still has his nuts is completely bald on top of his head. The brother who lost his nuts when he was young has a full, youthful head of hair.

[novicebb]

Originally Posted by kaly50

i have read somewhere on this forum that taking propecia or finastride while taking deca will actually make your hair fall out much faster. well, i am finishing my deca steroid of my deca and test cycle. so i will continue the test a little while longer. my question is since deca is in your system for a long time (over a year) would it be ok to take propecia without it being harmful towards your hair. or would you have to wait a certain amount of time to start taking propecia on another cycle not including deca?

Well I don't take Deca anymore myself because I notice for myself that it is very androgenic in my body. I replaced it with EQ instead. But Deca and most AAS are DHT steriodial derivatives so finesteride will not stop Deca possible negative effects on the scalp because finesteride actually reduce DHT in the prostate and scalp receptor sites by as much as 80%. Taking Deca with finesteride can actually cause an increase in balding because you are basically taking an AAS that sometimes will metabolised in to Nor-dehydrotesterone which finestiride can not block. Plus you are really asking for serious sexual disfuction since both proscar and deca are known to decrease the male libido.

[crobar1]

Are these only via prescription?

[GDSGFT]

Yes, Finasteride AKA Proscar/Propecia is only available with a prescription.

If you're interested in finasteride, your best bet is to buy the Proscar as it comes in 5mg tablets which can then be easily cut into quarters for daily consumption (1.25mg).

If you're that worried about hairloss, a regime of Proscar/nizoral/minoxodil (rogaine) works wonders.

If you have any further questions, feel free to PM me.

[Jono1971]

Masters marketing sell packets of 28 tablets of propecia and proscar, each for $50, no script required.

Obviously, a lot cheaper to buy the 5mg proscar and cut them into quaters

[PDP]

Originally Posted by GDSGFT

"Now having said that, using finasteride will NOT stop hairloss in an AAS cycle if you are predisposed to MPB."

I'd like to see some paperwork which backs that up as I find it rather hard to believe.

The reason why we lose our hair on AAS is mainly due to excess DHT levels in our bodies. Regardless on if someone is predisposed to MPB or not, using a DHT inhibitation regime whilst on cycle will surely stop/slow down ones hairloss problem.

It will not stop hairloss, although it may slow the rate of hairloss.

DHT is not the only reason for hairloss. All androgens can contribute to it. Remember that Finasteride will NOT work to prevent hairloss from other synthetic AAS such as winny, tren, dbol etc. Nor will Finasteride prevent hairloss from testosterone ITSELF.

Therefore, you should not find my statement hard to believe.

Taking massive supraphysiologoical levels of androgens when one is prone to MPB will not be offset by finasteride alone.

BTW Finasteride use in a cycle employing aromatizing AAS is a recipe for drastically increased edema, female fat pattern accumulation and potential gyno in many users. ALWAYS use a good anti-e....

[ItalianPride]

try saw palmetto...my friend thats a doc recommended it, its like propecia, but natural..and u wont worry about any side effects about going limp...i've been on it for three months, im not growing much hair, but feels fuller and im not losing any like before..its a prostate herbal pill, but if u read up on it, it helps against high dht levels..and trust me it better, cause being on it for a while u will get twice as much hardon's then usual so there is a plus to taking them.. and propecia is like 60.00 and saw is like 18.00 and twice as much pills...its worth the shot...