S1+

[JOEFROMCHI]

Ok All... S1+ What Do U Think?? Any Good? Lemme Know Bros... Worth Money? Its A Pre Cycle For Me... Im Not Rushing Into Things... Using All My Time To Research An Build Naturally Before Anything.... I Have Read This S1+ Is Good For A Probable First Timer... Lemme Know Bros...

[Cardinal]

I used it as an introductory cycle to PH/PS. It was a good learning experience. But since you indicate you will likely use AAS anyway, I would just save the money and use it to purchase testosterone and dbol and pct stuff.

The most effective way to run 1-Test and 4AD is actually to find the cypionate esters and pin it. I don't really see why you would want/need to get any 4AD (converts to test) since you will have access to testosterone anyway.

If you want to stock up while you still can on PH's, your money would be much better spent getting some 1-Test powder in bulk from mike rather than the premade S1+. You might also look into the new Superdrol and the cheap and readily available M1T. M1T is by far the strongest of the bunch with the nastiest sides.

From my experience, the S1+ likely wouldn't produce all that much more muscle tissue than you could obtain naturally. I don't find 4AD to be particularly anabolic (but 1-T does seem to produce a bit of lean anabolism).

M5AA is not anabolic, but is androgenic and provides a nice preworkout cns stimulation/good strength gains. M4OHN has developed a reputation for being about as mild as they come in terms of methyls, give a sense of well-being while on and some good strength gains. Works exceptionally well on a cut.

I am sure I missed a lot and others will chime in. Check Strategos' write up on avant labs about all the prohormones/prosteroids etc. Much more comprehensive.

[JOEFROMCHI]

Well... I Dont Think Im Really Ready For Aas To Be Honest I Dont Like How All The Beginners Come On Here Wanting A Dream Body An Compete In Six Months... I Know I Cant An Wont Think Like That... I Wont Touch The Gear For Maybe A Year I Think... Im Just Wonderin What Kind Of Gains Did U Get? How Long Did It Take? And Also... It Says Its A Spray...... How Would That Work? I Would Think Spray Into Hand Then Spread Correct? Thanks Cardinal

[Cardinal]

If you get S1+, don't use the spray applicator. You would likely just get inaccurate dosings. Get a syringe and measure it out by volume. Wear a latex glove and use that to spread the transdermal lotion. Spread on a thin skinned area (like back of knee, forearm) for best absorption ideally right after your shower, twice a day morning and night.

I edited my first post. As I mentioned there, I didn't get much anabolism, especially in comparison to M1T. Not even close. And compared to what I expect to get from AAS, S1+ is a joke.

The 1-Test will take until about the start of the third week or so to kick in. So you need to run it at least 6 weeks to see good gains. I hate to suggest something too harsh for a beginner cycle but if you are going PH/PS, I would kick start it with about 10mg M1T for the first two weeks so that you will for sure see some good muscle gains from the cycle.

Superdrol is not as thoroughly tested in comparison to M1T but I am fairly confident it could be used as a replacement to kickstart cycles with or as a standalone androgen for some nice lean gains. You might go that route as well. 65.00 will buy you a one month supply.