The Science Behind Growth Stunting

[ricknash]

K I have been on this site for awhile now, and for an even longer time been reading adn researching AAS and the like. Even off of the internet, i have many-a-story that AAS stunts your growth/fuses your growth plate. I have asked this question more than once, with no answers.
Question #1. Take a male, aged 16-2, growing at a fast rate, with a high level of Test in his body and works out. Now take a person of the same age and stats, but injects AAS Test for 8 weeks. Why would his growth halt? Someone please explain the science of this to me.

Qestion #2. Take a person of the same stats above^ and instead of test give them oral dianabol with proper pct, would growth stop permanently?

thank you

[love_en]

Cycle doses of Testosterone normally induce high levels of estrogen as well. Estrogen is what stops bone growth. A high-normal level of T is 800-1000ng/dl total T. A dose of injectable T over 100mg/week causes a level of T way over that and a good portion of that excess T aromatizes into estrogen.

Dianabol also aromatizes and can cause short stature. It is not testosterone, but it turns into estrogen and progesterone. I can tell who played with Dianabol in high school. They have nice boobs and are short.

[mxim]

actually,when your hormone levels get too high,the body is tricked into thinking it is done growing. thats the reason.

[ricknash]

hmm
would taking it with an anti-e help?

[love_en]

Possibly, but what I say is based on the average teenager who should not even be on gear. It takes intelligence and maturity to manage estrogen, then bring endogenous T production back on line. So many kids do Dianabol, Deca, and whatever else without having those details in order.

[Bigkarch]

first, why the question rick...growth wont halt at that point bro......but I take it you are at that age.. am I correct...

[ricknash]

yep, i am 18 years old, barely 5'8, id say i will be 5'9 based on my growth rate etc. but who knows, some people are 5'5 at age 19 then spurt to 6 feet. Marty Turco of the Dallas Stars was under 5 feet going into high school, after high school hit a growth spurt, now hes liek 5'11.

i dont really care bout height though.

hows this, taking 25-30 mg d-bol a day for 6-8 weeks, while taking stuff to reduce estrogen, gyno, etc.

[unt0ld]

F*ck Dbol man godamn. Get some testosterone.

[ricknash]

hahaha i will.

but for my first cycle i wanna just try an oral.
would 6-8 weeks 25-30 mg a day dbol be good, taken with an anti-e and PCT(by the way which should i take, clomid, nolva, or what)

[Bigkarch]

not in my mind bro...sure you can gain some..but not ideal...but I can guess that no matter what we say, you are going to do it anyway...you can get some good bloat so an anti e is needed..say dex at .25 mg eod....

[ricknash]

you got me wrong bro, i WONT do it if u guys give me solid reasons not too. so far i dunno what to think.
i wanted to do just a cycle of oral d-bol, but then i heard of bloat problems, and gyno. and i think i already naturally deposit more fat to my breast area. i just wanna get big and fairly cut, seeing as im already in pretty good shape.
how does this look.
D-rol+Primobolin+anti-e for 6 weeks?
or
D-bol+Primobolin+anti-e for 6 weeks?

i just wanna try a pure oral cycle with oral pct first. then in the summer or later try a test cyp or enan. based cycle. perhaps stacked with deca or d-bol or sumthin