SERIOUS Cycle and PCT question

[ThePerpetrator]

Bros of Meso!

First off... Thank you for all the help over the last few months. As well as a tremendous amount of knowledge. Now, here it is...

My stats...

Height: 5'9
Weight: 190
BF: maybe around 20%
Age:31
training hard a year, lifting on and off for a few more. Diet has improved over a year and have gained about 12 pounds.

My upcoming cycle...

Weeks 1-4 D-Bol 35mg everyday
Weeks 1-10 Test Enanthate 500mg weekly

During entire cycle:
.25mg Arimidex (liquid) everyday
10mg or 20mg Nolvadex (liquid) everyday (for 10mg) or every other day (for 20mg)???

PCT: (here are my main questions)
HCG for 10 days @ 500iu per day (Is this necessary for this type of cycle)?
Then follow that up with this on day 14 (Or should I start this 2 weeks after the last test injection)?

Day 1-30:
.25mg Arimidex
20mg Nolva
100mg Clomid


For this type of cycle and for the duration, is HCG necessary?

Please Note: Some of this below was plagiarized from research I have done and some my own words.

I know HCG is used to stimulate testosterone production in males, and that HCG mimics LH (Self explanatory to me). Also that HCG will restore the size of the boys rather quickly if they were suppressed from a long or hard cycle (Got that too). Since HCG mimics LH, your body wont begin producing its own LH, as it sees no need to because test levels are high (This I understand as well). When you stop the HCG, your boys stop making test until your body begins producing adequate levels of its own LH. (from what I have researched, I believe I understand this process now).

NOW: For this type of cycle, would you recommend HCG (would be my first time using it)? If so, would the above dosage be adequate, or do you feel another type of dosage and duration would be better?

I have also read it can bring about gyno, so would I start Nolva during this time at 10mg or 20mg a day during that or wait until the end of HCG? Then start the dosage of Nolva, Arimidex and the Clomid Therapy? Also, do you feel my "After HCG dosage" is on the money or not?

Sorry for the long book here, but I have spent several months laying this cycle and PCT out. Want to make sure all goes as planned. Besides, it is always good for another pair (or several dozen) of eyes to re-read your ideas.

[Zeo]

Im just ending allmost the same cycle , i would suggest adding Deca or Eq at 500mg a week also in the mix . I wish i would of , my gains have been good so far though but i think i could of maximized them with a little EQ. I also am only going to use a mix of Clomid + nolv for my PCT.

[plmuscle]

Read the sticky's posted by Phreezer and Animal
I would throw some Deca or EQ in that cycle, JMO!

[Turbo1]

Yep throw in Deca or EQ but if ya dont then HCG will probably not be neccesary. It all depends how hard the Test shuts you down. Everyone is different. Granted it wont hurt to run it if ya wanna get the boys up quicker. Or you can run it entire cycle but probably no need for it on a Test/Dbol cycle

IS this your first cycle??

[ThePerpetrator]

[seand95]

Originally Posted by ThePerpetrator

damn dude! training hard for year... 190 lbs, 20% bodyfat...
your primmed and ready for this for sure dude.
plan looks good, should make you swole bro!

[ThePerpetrator]

Any other thoughts on my PCT for this cycle?

[ydrpysg]

you can skip the hcg. but -- you'll bounce back faster if you do use it. and it is cheap. so, i'd keep it.

2 weeks after the last test shot start pct. dump the arimidex during pct. you don't want to supress your bodies' estrogen production -- you're trying to get your body to normalize.

if you're taking arimidex daily, i'd probably not take nolva during cycle and save it for pct.

also -- like the other guys said, throw in some eq at 400mg/week and you'll be happier with your results.

[toyoda]

500-600mg eq for 12 weeks, IMO a cycle is a investment so don't go cheap!!!
Make sure you have a stockpile of protein before starting also.

[ThePerpetrator]

Originally Posted by ydrpysg

you can skip the hcg. but -- you'll bounce back faster if you do use it. and it is cheap. so, i'd keep it.

2 weeks after the last test shot start pct. dump the arimidex during pct. you don't want to supress your bodies' estrogen production -- you're trying to get your body to normalize.

if you're taking arimidex daily, i'd probably not take nolva during cycle and save it for pct.

also -- like the other guys said, throw in some eq at 400mg/week and you'll be happier with your results.

Something to think about!

Thanks ydrpysg!!

[Starkraven]

hey bro thats not a SERIOUS cycle, its a pretty mild novice cycle and you shouldnt worry too much about PCT. i would just go with nolva 20mg ed and clomid 50mg ed for 3 weeks total.

[ThePerpetrator]

Originally Posted by Starkraven

hey bro thats not a SERIOUS cycle, its a pretty mild novice cycle and you shouldnt worry too much about PCT. i would just go with nolva 20mg ed and clomid 50mg ed for 3 weeks total.

Maybe I did not write my question clear enough for you. I was not stating that my cycle was a SERIOUS meaning large and with much AAS, but that I wanted some real advice on how I had my PCT laid out as this was to be my first cycle. I just wanted to confirm my research concerning PCT was a well laid out one. Thank you though on your thoughts for PCT. I will keep it in mind.

Thank you,

Perp

[R. I. P.]

bro I would do a couple cycles of Dnp to get you body fat down 20% is pretty high

[ThePerpetrator]

Originally Posted by R. I. P.

bro I would do a couple cycles of Dnp to get you body fat down 20% is pretty high

I know... I know...

CLEN & ECA is going now.

I just love food and the picnics have been killing me this summer