short cycle, 4 weeks on

[darrenjan]

He guys i m new here but now new to the juices. Anyway i was wondering a design for a very short steroid cycle either to bulk or cut. Lets say 4 weeks on, and PCT goes right after.

Any sugestions? for the bulk and cut.
I d run several bulking cycles on sustanon and d-bol for several rounds and get good gains. But i was jus wondering are there any 4 week ON cycles out there either for bulk or cut. and the substances used. I ll appreciate ur help guys

[dennis]

Originally Posted by darrenjan

He guys i m new here but now new to the juices. Anyway i was wondering a design for a very short steroid cycle either to bulk or cut. Lets say 4 weeks on, and PCT goes right after.

Any sugestions? for the bulk and cut.
I d run several bulking cycles on sustanon and d-bol for several rounds and get good gains. But i was jus wondering are there any 4 week ON cycles out there either for bulk or cut. and the substances used. I ll appreciate ur help guys

You could run prop or tren ace but 4 weeks is kinda short bro..think you better study some more.

[robyflexx]

Originally Posted by darrenjan

He guys i m new here but now new to the juices. Anyway i was wondering a design for a very short steroid cycle either to bulk or cut. Lets say 4 weeks on, and PCT goes right after.

Any sugestions? for the bulk and cut.
I d run several bulking cycles on sustanon and d-bol for several rounds and get good gains. But i was jus wondering are there any 4 week ON cycles out there either for bulk or cut. and the substances used. I ll appreciate ur help guys

Most injectables don't even begin to show until the 3rd or 4th week. Even with the fast acting ones...don't expect much in that time frame.

[darrenjan]

thanks guys. Id got to say 4 weeks is to short somehow. Even prop's as a base do not act that fast as i thought.

[Aheart]

Originally Posted by darrenjan

thanks guys. Id got to say 4 weeks is to short somehow. Even prop's as a base do not act that fast as i thought.

Anadrol-50 is perfect for 4 weeks or even Dianabol

[Ceazer]

4 weeks on anything is a waste of money.
Why only a four weeker??

[bigbench]

I have run a few 4 week cutters. When I was competing, I did a lot of work with the local shows around my area, so I would try to "get in shape" for each one of the shows to help show the newer guys how to dry out, get striations, proper posing as well as angles and tanning. I would use things for more of a means to prevent muscle wasting. Something like a VERY large dose of prop/tren for the first three days then level out for the rest of the month and depending on current condition add winstrol or dbol. Cals would be cut to a ridiculous amount while protein would stay high. I would up cardio to 12-14 hours a week. All soduim was gone and the only carbs I took in where spinach or raw broch. That was it. It would allow me to drastically bring out cuts in that short amount of time without losing any muscle, but long cycles are much better overal

[darrenjan]

Crap....i typed quite a long reply n "error" comes out on my PC. got to retyped! damn

Anyway, the 4 week cycle i plan to design is for a friend of mine. Within the 4 weeks i plan to make a very efficinet cycle to either cut/bulk. in this short period of time, i hope to bring out the full potential of the anabolics with properr training and diet.

Anyway, is front loading really that necessary for the short week cycle?
week1: 500mg of T.prop (frontloaded), not sure on tren's dosage.
week2 to 4: 100mg of Winstrol inj's EOD,250 mg of test prop EOD

[groundNpound]

"full potential of anabolics"

Yeah 4 weeks is a joke in this case. You should just do Cheerios and Skim Milk.

[761USD]

I'm not an expert, but I disagree. I'm looking in to short cycles myself right now. Read this thread.

Short cycles

They talk about 2 wks on 3 wks pct and 2 wks off. I think I will go 4 wks on, 3 wks pct, 2 wks off. then repeat. Sounds like the best for me personally. I'm off cycle now, and I hate it. I'm not happy about waiting to start again. It's too long of a wait. I think PCT will be better and will be able to keep gains.

Keep in mind, I'm still researching this topic and this is the opinion I formulated so far.