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Hmmm. After doing some reading, it looks like 1-T has effects similar to tren, high dose primo, or EQ. It does not aromatize and produces quality lean mass. It's best run with something that does aromatize though, hence the popularity of using it with 4-AD. I'm considering running it not with 4-AD, but with test enan.
If I was running test enanthate, the 1-T would serve two specific purposes (besides the fact that I have it and want to use it). One, it would help jumpstart the cycle. Since the transdermal 1-T is just the base, it has no ester to lose. It's immediately active and its effects are felt within 2 weeks or so. Second, it would serve as a short acting anabolic at the end of the cycle, while I wait for the enanthate to clear my system. Here's the cycle I'm considering:
I'd have arimidex on hand for the onset of excessive estrogen, and nolva for immediate treatment. I'd run hCG throughout the cycle at 250 IU, 3x per week.
I'm not planning on using prohormones. I said I would use test enanthate instead of 4-AD. That's the whole point of the post... How well would 1-testosterone stack with test enanthate?
I'm guessing you didn't read my first post. I'll repeat it for you. I'd use 1 test with test e:
1. To jumpstart the cycle. Since 1-T has no ester, it's immediately active. It's also more anabolic than testosterone.
2. To provide anabolism after the last dose of test enanthate. When the enanthate has essentially cleared my system three weeks later, I can discontinue the 1-T and start PCT immediately. 1 test would also be beneficial at the end of the cycle because it doesn't aromatize. Estrogen obviously contributes to inhibition of the HPTA, and I want to avoid this, especially later in the cycle.
I would use primo over one test any day.
One (1 test) uses your bodys chemistry to convert to said hormone/s , so its a precurser the other is an external source of an actual hormone.
There is no comparrison between AAS and prosteroids.One works very well the other "might"give you some gains<<< put simply
I would use primo over one test any day.
One (1 test) uses your bodys chemistry to convert to said hormone/s , so its a precurser the other is an external source of an actual hormone.
There is no comparrison between AAS and prosteroids.One works very well the other "might"give you some gains<<< put simply
You obviously don't know the pharmacokinetics of 1 testosterone. It's certainly not a precursor and requires no conversion "using your bodys chemistry." It's immediately active and is "an external source of an actual hormone." I'd do some more homework on this before you start making ill-informed comments. Geez.
1-test is a prohormone in my book. I'd use dbol to kick off a test enanthate cycle.
I considered using dbol, but decided to go easy on my liver. I also think that the gains would be a little too drastic (and too noticeable) for those around me. In this regard, I think another, faster acting anabolic would be a good option.
BTW, no one's going to buy your book if you have blatant errors in it like "1-test is a prohormone." And yeah, I meant that figuratively.
20mg/day of dbol wouldn't be too drastic or hard on your liver, IMHO. I've used 50mg/day of dbol for about 3 weeks now in conjunction with injectables and .25mg of arimidex daily. I'm not puffy or water logged. I'm not getting fat. What I have is excellent pumps and strength despite keeping my carbs very low.
I guess you're new to Meso, but most of the members and mods here don't subscribe to prohomones or pro-steroids as effective, or even worth considering, compared to real AAS.
Stacking 1-T with Test Enan? 
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