started 2nd cycle....w/pics...advice, comments?

[jmills]

I see alot of guys post about starting a cycle, but never put up before and/or after pics. Well, I want to put these up here because I feel like it will be a source of motivation for me. I know that in 12 weeks I will be posting my after pics, so maybe I'll stay away from the buffet

I did one cycle of sust for 250mg wk/8 wks a few years ago....with no pct and no damn idea what I was doing. Listened to "the guy at my gym" and ended up in bad shape. It took me a year to get back to the point I was before I started that cycle. Then I found this board, got some great advice and did a cycle of test 500 mg wk 10/wks. Put on 25 lbs, but honestly my diet got out of control and I put on more fat than I wanted. But i did go from 165 to 180 (after PCT...been holding the weight for over a month now) so I feel like it was a succesful cycle.

I'm 5'7", 40 yrs old and have been lifting since I was a teenager, almost always in tandem with martial arts training (hence my realtively light weight). I'd like to gain a solid 10-15 lbs and lean up a bit with this cycle. I'm still working out my routine, so any advice in that area is especially welcome.

Anyway, my cycle is:
wk 1-2 800 mq EG
wk 1-2 1000 mg Test E
Wk 3-12 400 mg EQ
wk 3-12 500 mg Test E
wk 10-12 100 mg Test P EOD
wk 8-12 40 mg var ED
wk 4-12 500 iu HCG E7D
Wk 4-12 .25 mg A-dex E3D (or as needed for bloat)
PCT: Nolva, Aromasin

Any comments, advice is welcome...but I already know I am a fatass

[prodigy06]

Originally Posted by jmills

Anyway, my cycle is:
wk 1-2 800 mq EG
wk 1-2 1000 mg Test E
Wk 3-12 400 mg EQ
wk 3-12 500 mg Test E
wk 10-12 100 mg Test P EOD
wk 8-12 40 mg var ED
wk 4-12 500 iu HCG E7D
Wk 4-12 .25 mg A-dex E3D (or as needed for bloat)
PCT: Nolva, Aromasin

Any comments, advice is welcome...but I already know I am a fatass

I'd do the test p ED at the beginning instead of front loading the eq and test. But i guess it really doesn't matter in the end.

[role model]

Originally Posted by jmills

I see alot of guys post about starting a cycle, but never put up before and/or after pics. Well, I want to put these up here because I feel like it will be a source of motivation for me. I know that in 12 weeks I will be posting my after pics, so maybe I'll stay away from the buffet

I did one cycle of sust for 250mg wk/8 wks a few years ago....with no pct and no damn idea what I was doing. Listened to "the guy at my gym" and ended up in bad shape. It took me a year to get back to the point I was before I started that cycle. Then I found this board, got some great advice and did a cycle of test 500 mg wk 10/wks. Put on 25 lbs, but honestly my diet got out of control and I put on more fat than I wanted. But i did go from 165 to 180 (after PCT...been holding the weight for over a month now) so I feel like it was a succesful cycle.

I'm 5'7", 40 yrs old and have been lifting since I was a teenager, almost always in tandem with martial arts training (hence my realtively light weight). I'd like to gain a solid 10-15 lbs and lean up a bit with this cycle. I'm still working out my routine, so any advice in that area is especially welcome.

Anyway, my cycle is:
wk 1-2 800 mq EG
wk 1-2 1000 mg Test E
Wk 3-12 400 mg EQ
wk 3-12 500 mg Test E
wk 10-12 100 mg Test P EOD
wk 8-12 40 mg var ED
wk 4-12 500 iu HCG E7D
Wk 4-12 .25 mg A-dex E3D (or as needed for bloat)
PCT: Nolva, Aromasin

Any comments, advice is welcome...but I already know I am a fatass

You don't look like your 40
I suggest eating more quality this time around and keep the reps 6-10 to get stronger and you should meet your goal.
Your cycle may drop off to fast otherwise looks good. No sense with the prop at the end when your still doing Test e.
Instead of.
wk 3-12 400 mg EQ
500 mg Test E
Try
wks 3-10 600 mg EQ
750 mg Test E
Then
100 test prop ED wks 11-12

[role model]

Originally Posted by role model

You don't look like your 40
I suggest eating more quality this time around and keep the reps 6-10 to get stronger and you should meet your goal.
Your cycle may drop off to fast otherwise looks good. No sense with the prop at the end when your still doing Test e.
Instead of.
wk 3-12 400 mg EQ
500 mg Test E
Try
wks 3-10 600 mg EQ
750 mg Test E
Then
100 test prop ED wks 11-12

Then start PCT the day after last prop shot and 1 more week of HCG.

Your PCT is way different than mine but I'm more old school.

HCG: 1000IU's Day After last AAS shot. Run for Ten days with Nolvadex @ 20mg ED throughout, if itchy or painful nipps start to appear try uping that dosage to 40mg ED or all they way up to 80mg ED.

I start high and taper off with Clomid.

150mg Clomid day (Only)

day 2-8 100mg ED

day 9-16 50mg ED -

day 17-24 50mg EOD...

HCG 1000IU'S ED for ten days, 20mg Nolvadex ED along with the HCG, The day after my last HCG shot I start clomid therapy. This is just over a month long, so you should be able to start another cycle within 5-6 weeks after finishing your last. [assuming everything is back on line] If your doing longer cycles, you may need to administer clomid for another 10-21 days.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by jmills

I see alot of guys post about starting a cycle, but never put up before and/or after pics. Well, I want to put these up here because I feel like it will be a source of motivation for me. I know that in 12 weeks I will be posting my after pics, so maybe I'll stay away from the buffet

I did one cycle of sust for 250mg wk/8 wks a few years ago....with no pct and no damn idea what I was doing. Listened to "the guy at my gym" and ended up in bad shape. It took me a year to get back to the point I was before I started that cycle. Then I found this board, got some great advice and did a cycle of test 500 mg wk 10/wks. Put on 25 lbs, but honestly my diet got out of control and I put on more fat than I wanted. But i did go from 165 to 180 (after PCT...been holding the weight for over a month now) so I feel like it was a succesful cycle.

I'm 5'7", 40 yrs old and have been lifting since I was a teenager, almost always in tandem with martial arts training (hence my realtively light weight). I'd like to gain a solid 10-15 lbs and lean up a bit with this cycle. I'm still working out my routine, so any advice in that area is especially welcome.

Anyway, my cycle is:
wk 1-2 800 mq EG
wk 1-2 1000 mg Test E
Wk 3-12 400 mg EQ
wk 3-12 500 mg Test E
wk 10-12 100 mg Test P EOD
wk 8-12 40 mg var ED
wk 4-12 500 iu HCG E7D
Wk 4-12 .25 mg A-dex E3D (or as needed for bloat)
PCT: Nolva, Aromasin

Any comments, advice is welcome...but I already know I am a fatass

Nice pics bro. They make me feel like I'm a fat ass

The cycle looks good just the way you have it planned out.

You should harden up at the end with the Prop and Var compared the 500mg Test E on the last cycle.

HDH

[role model]

Originally Posted by HDH

Nice pics bro. They make me feel like I'm a fat ass

The cycle looks good just the way you have it planned out.

You should harden up at the end with the Prop and Var compared the 500mg Test E on the last cycle.

HDH

Did you notice the test prop, EQ and test e all on week 12?
What is the reasoning to run Test e and prop both on your last week?
Will take another 2-3 weeks for the EQ and test e to clear,
I don't like that part of the cycle at all.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by role model

Did you notice the test prop, EQ and test e all on week 12?
What is the reasoning to run Test e and prop both on your last week?
Will take another 2-3 weeks for the EQ and test e to clear,
I don't like that part of the cycle at all.

Ya, I didn't see that.

Prop at week 12 to 14

HDH

[jmills]

Yeah guys, thats the way I actually have it planned with the prop...I was just typing fast and goofed up. I have planned this to be 14 weeks, with the prop at the end just like HDH put it. Hell, HDH is the guy that gave me that idea in the first place! The reasoning is I have a bottle and want to try it out cus I am thinking about a prop/tren a cycle next summer and I want to see how i do with the prop before I buy a bunch. And the reason I'm doing the prop as a backload is i am trying out this A-S gear and I want to see how it does before I get too far into my cycle.

I appreciate the feedback, but RM do you really think I would benefit from the added juice at my weight? I have enough so that would be no problem....it just seemed like overkill to me. That, and I did not enjoy the test bloat...but I'll be using the a-dex this time sooooo, maybe I'll do that.


And yeah, my pct is a bit different than yours...but I just don't think theres only one right way to do it. I used Clomid w/ Nolva last time kind of like you are but only cus I had it and I really can't use it for anything else so why not, right? This time I'll have something to compare my last pct too...I may go back to using the clomid and the HCG at the end, I'm still learning and keeping an open mind.

[HDH]

The Aromasin is actually a good idea. Not many run it with the Nolva. I see you have been doing some research.

HDH

[ChaseQ]

You have a great base! It will be awesome to see the results. Are you going to post pics through the cycle at all, or just at the end?

[MaxRep]

J, you're looking great. Keep up the good work! Your 14 week cycle looks good.

Best to you,
MaxRep

[jasthace]

I want to see that thigh shot in the "after" shot
Good seperation.
Good work,all that training you've done over the years,you should buff up well.

[jmills]

Thanks for all of the positive responses, I will DEFINITELY post "after" photo's but have not really considered posting any others along the way. It's very intimidating to put your photos up, just being honest.

[role model]

Originally Posted by jmills

Thanks for all of the positive responses, I will DEFINITELY post "after" photo's but have not really considered posting any others along the way. It's very intimidating to put your photos up, just being honest.

I would be interested to see your weight routine.