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Old 05-03-2009, 07:17 PM
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I am going to use phreezer's guide and his 2d cycle suggestion. then do his suggested post cycle. I have many questions and was hoping this board could answer them. So, here we go

CYCLE TWO: Sustanon and Deca. (Once again I’m using Sustanon as the example but the substitution of Enanthate or Cypionate will yield similar results.

Deca is very good for strength and is helpful in allowing you to keep your gains. It does have some negative side effects. The worst of these being “Deca Dick” Deca shuts down the body’s production of testosterone rather quickly. By itself you will lose your sex drive almost completely. Without Testosterone you will find it difficult to achieve and maintain an erection. (Captain Winky Just won’t stand at attention) This is why it is always recommended to stack Deca with some form of test. Deca also takes longer to clear your system. That is why one will typically stop administering Deca about two weeks prior to the conclusion of your cycle.

Weeks 1-7: 500mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon, 300mg Deca
Weeks 8-9: 500mg Sustanon
1st weekly injection 250mg Sust, 2nd weekly Injection 250mg Sustanon

and for the post cycle phreezer advises:
HCG: 1000IU’s For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
Clomid: Starting on the last day of The HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg EOD
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.

ok, my questions are; How much would the 10 week cycle cost+ post cycle, if the research i found is correct it looks like under $325 i thought that this would be the cost per month, not per cycle, if so then thats great news.

Second question, what should i be eating ive seen so much info on this but as a begginer I am looking to make sure everything is down to a science so i do not screw up, could someone please give me a suggestive breakdown of cals and maybe some specific foods to eat.

Third question, could someone explaine how much oil to use in each injection of 250mg sustanon and much for 300mg of deca.

Fourth question, how much should i expect to be spending a month including food and protein shakes (not including the cycle and post cycle)

Thank you for the help, I know these are probably foolish questions to the vets but I am just starting to try and take my body to new levels.
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One more question, how long should I wait after the post cycle to begin another cycle
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DONT DO NOTHING!!!!!!!READ FIRST!THIS CYCLE IS AND THE PCT IS TOTALLY WRONG DUDE
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ok can i get some more help then please, that is why I am here, for help. I need links or anything that can help me get started. A begginer cycle with prices and information on everything, once again, I realize this is nub stuff for the pros, but I am obviously no pro. I need all the information I can get my hands on, and from what u say, the info I have been looking at is garbage, thank you.
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murph what r ur stats dude

age, weight, height, body fat %, your goals, whats ur diet like

u need to know this stuff before thinking about aas
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I am 6'4, 220 pounds i would say a little overweightm and want to cut up
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i am tryin to get a lil cut before building massice amounts of muscle. please help the best u can thank you.
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The way the cycle is written is a bit vague in the understanding department.
but this is it

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1-9 500mg sustonon
1-7 300mg deca

Pretty simple bread and butter stack
Good luck with that

Ps I see you are asking how much it wll cost.I hope your not going to ask for a source next.
You cant be starting your cycle soon if you havent got any gear.
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and pct that??
HCG: 1000IU’s For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
Clomid: Starting on the last day of The HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg EOD
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.
no from me!
do 5000ius every 4day=15000ius with 20mg nolva for 4 weeks and 10mg for one week and clomid for 3 weeks 100-50-50

trusted me thats better!1000ius pregnyl for 10 days is dangerous! every day 1000ius? come on!!
you know that half life of prengyl is 4 days?clomid 5 days?nolva 15days?if you dont know that,its time to learn it..
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I also am not a fan of Phreezers cycles...7 weeks for deca? Bro i dont even get started until the 4th or 5th week..and whats up with this 9 week Sust?? The PCT is weird...i believe you asked when to begin your PCT as well...14 days after your last injection, you should still get gains after you subside so thats the window..hope that helps, let see some stats, workouts, and diet
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