Sub-q injections revisited

[greyowl]

There were a lot of posts recently from guys doing planning to do sub-q injections instead if IM.

Anyone out there now completed a full cycle and have results to share? How do the results it compare to regular IM injections? Anything out of the ordinary to report about sides?

[greyowl]

bumperoo

[hackskii]

No it works but drawing and shooting is hard

Prop is fine but cyp is hard to shoot.

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by hackskii

No it works but drawing and shooting is hard

Prop is fine but cyp is hard to shoot.

Why would cyp be hard to shoot sub-q?

[Big_paul]

I've tried it and it seems that It is absorbed much slower as opposed to IM were it is taken up into the blood stream much quicker. I think it's a waste. I also noticed it would sit there under the skin for up to several weeks. Bp

[Bigkarch]

for any aas oil base...IM is the way to go...

[hackskii]

Cyp is a thick oil and it takes forever to load and shoot.

Correct IM is faster into the system.

Sub-Q I was trying to see if it worked and it is too much hastle for the ease of doing Sub-Q

Prop shoots easy.

[jboldman]

why would cyp be hard to shoot any old way? it is not the cyp that makes it viscous it is the oil. draw with a larger guage pin and shoot with whatever floats your boat. If you are shooting witha 25G 1.5 expect it to take a while.

sub-q is so wrong in so many ways for test for bodybuilding.

jb

Originally Posted by greyowl

Why would cyp be hard to shoot sub-q?

[Conciliator]

I tried a 0.5 ml sub-q on the top of my leg. The gear I have is 300+ mg/ml Test Enan, and I think the BA content is high... All 1ml IM injects had been painful, so I thought a sub-q might hurt less. All I can say is that my leg has swollen up and the injection site is nice and sore. It's been almost a week and the swelling is just starting to go down a little... talk about ridiculous. Has this ever happened to any of you guys? If so, how long did it take to go away? I should note that subsequent .25ml injections haven't posed a problem. I think .5 ml was just too much and my gear was too concentrated or had too much BA.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by hackskii

Cyp is a thick oil and it takes forever to load and shoot.

Correct IM is faster into the system.

Sub-Q I was trying to see if it worked and it is too much hastle for the ease of doing Sub-Q

Prop shoots easy.

What Gauge pin? Try Terumo pins they have thinner walls

[hackskii]

Man, that looks bad.
Bacteria comes to mind.
Ouch.........
That is infected bro.
Be very carefull I have a friend that got two abscess from winstrol and the opperations butchered his legs up bad.

[Conciliator]

I don't think it's infected. I used the same sterile protocol as for IM injects... washed my hands, cleaned the stopper with alcohol, wiped the injection site with alcohol in a circular pattern, withdrew air into the syringe with the cap still on, etc.

I'm betting it's the high BA content irritating/killing/messing with my fat cells and then the accopanying inflammatory response. This gear sucks.

[hackskii]

If it is hot to the touch then there is infection.

Man, that really looks irritated to me.

[Conciliator]

Originally Posted by hackskii

If it is hot to the touch then there is infection.

Man, that really looks irritated to me.

Four other sites where I only injected .25 ml (half as much) on a later date are also sore, swollen, and red, just to a much lesser extent. I'm pretty sure it's the gear. I don't think being hot to the touch is an absolute indicator of infection. It seems like it would go more in hand with inflammation and irritation.

[Big_paul]

Conciliator bro I feel your pain. Thats what mine looked like at one injection site. Stuff just sits there and festers. I had to drain that one and use some antibiotics. I would discourage anyone from doing sub q injections. The esters used are designed to slow down absorption in muscle tissue. May be water base is different, but still use as directed, IM. Bp