substitute for tren

[stilletto]

Would like some opinions on a cycle using something other than tren.Many years of steroid use.Am a powerlifter,but also bodybuild.Seem to have bad reactions to tren,even though i toughed it out last cycle.The cycle was weeks 1-6 100mg prop ed and 100mg anadrol ed.weeks 1-12 1000mg of test enanthate w and 100mg tren ed.Even though i experienced severe coughing and felt like i was being poisoned i finished the cycle because the strength gains were so good.Finally broke 1000 pound squat at week 12 of cycle.Had a very tough time recovering from that cycle and felt the tren hurt me.Am currently taking 1000mg of primo week and some proviron for right now for a mild cycle then later this summer will do another heavy cycle for a powelifting comp.Is there anything that can produce strength gains like tren,would not take the chance with tren again.

[Starkraven]

tren is horrible for me. too many sides some of which include: mental fucking, aggressiveness, irritable, mood swings, maybe bloating (from progesterone/prolactin), HARD SHUT DOWN to name a few. i never get night sweats but these are enough to keep me away. im 8 weeks post-cycle of testE/trenE and still shut down. doing clomid/nolva now. a little late but better late than never. test only or test/dbol for me.

[roadkill]

test suspension and anavar...only drawback is frequent injections

[jboldman]

There is no substitute for tren. what did you take, sounds like you got some homebrew with too many chemical solvents in it. Try a different brand and maker, I know folks that do tren enanthate til the cows come home and rarely get the tren cough.

jb

[stilletto]

I was using C****** labs.Would like to know of a tren that people have had good luck with.Has anyone out there had some of the sides i had with C****** labs product.

[Beefster]

Originally Posted by jboldman

There is no substitute for tren. what did you take, sounds like you got some homebrew with too many chemical solvents in it. Try a different brand and maker, I know folks that do tren enanthate til the cows come home and rarely get the tren cough.

jb

I have used tren ace twice which I brewed myself from a respectable powder source. I doubt I will ever do it again due to the same negative side effects previously stated (though I only got the cough once). Now, if it were cheap and extremely effective, maybe I could look past the sides for 6-8 weeks, but it just isn't worth it to me.

[jboldman]

my guess is that for everyone that does not like tren, there are a dozen that swear by it. I think that a tren and test cycle is hard to beat! In all the polls that i have seen, tren/tet come out on top by far as the most effective combo of parenteral drugs.

jb

[Deacon]

if you have bad sides with tren A try tren E - many including myself - like the tren E much better - less sides and better results

[Beefster]

Originally Posted by jboldman

my guess is that for everyone that does not like tren, there are a dozen that swear by it. I think that a tren and test cycle is hard to beat! In all the polls that i have seen, tren/tet come out on top by far as the most effective combo of parenteral drugs.

jb

I would like to see how many of these individual have actually tried it. I feel that many tend to jump on "bandwagons" when it comes to AAS when they have little or no experience. I am not doubting your experience though.

[jboldman]

Could be. But i know many guys personally who have used outrageous amounts of tren and still love it, myself included. It can definitely cause you to be, ah, a little more sensitive to negative events around you, if you are going to take it, you might consider doing it when there is some harmony in your life.



jb

[stilletto]

Has anyone tried the british dragon parabolan yet.

[butcherboy]

Bro, I just finished a 8 wk cycle of Tren Act 75/Test Prop 100. I am naturally aggressive and didn't notice any difference in mood swing. I am 5'10'' 230 lbs and am as strong as a fucking bull. I did notice the cough and sleepless, sweaty nights but I knew what I was getting into. This was my first time ever trying tren and I definantly will try it again.