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You should do a test/ tren cycle, My fav, size and strength are through the roof, plus I lean out. How tren is admin, all depends on which version you get, some are daily, and some are weekly slow acting. Trenbolone acetate is daily use, while trenbolone enanthate is a slower acting tren where only a weekly inj is needed. typical is 600mg a week.
Let me correct one thing about Trenbolone acetate, depending on the concentration will determine how much you need. A lot are more concentrated and can get away with 1 ml inj EOD. Just do your research and know what you are getting.
Yeah you'll need to work up to a tren cycle, For your first cycle, just stick with Test. This is the best way to go for first time users. I would probably bet that is how most of us all started out.
If you want to go one step further take newbie's advice and do the Test / D-bol cycle, The d bol will kick start things till test kicks in, Usually in 2 weeks. You'll be one happy big dude.
Perhaps you could... Wax on, wax off....... I am always interested. PM me. I have tried many testosterones from UGL to Prescribed. Lately I am finding that for some reason I may lack the ability to up-convert to DHT. Dont know why. I get an "ok" anabolic effect, but I get stronger from DHEA!!?? Its fucked up, I know, but I am thinking that next time I am supplementing for the reasons of adding muscle, I am going to stack some masteron in....
One further, I too put on 20lbs on test only, HOWEVER, it is the strength that is lacking. The RAW ASS POWER that should be durived. The outright hatred for all that there is to hate. The feeling of walking around the gym and throwing pussies out of my way when they violate common "mirror etiquette". I had more of that kind of energy when I was 19 and puny, and only thought I was big. In short, with test only, I lack the drive... Do you get that. Do you get some "mean" from test. Cause if not, you are not getting what it takes either.....
this has had me wondering for days-then i started thinking-dhea is converted to testosterone by the enzymes in your body-so technically it is just testosterone-so i wonder why you do better with dhea than test?
I dont know. I can tell you I have been taking this week and I have red, juicy zits on the back that can almost speak and pop themselves.!!! Perhaps it is also coverting to something else I am lacking that is assisting. Pehaps just the quantity of hormone at once is able to outrun E2, and will be negated soon regardless. time will tell.
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this has had me wondering for days-then i started thinking-dhea is converted to testosterone by the enzymes in your body-so technically it is just testosterone-so i wonder why you do better with dhea than test?
The biggest concern over DHEA supplementation is the issue of androgen/estrogen production from DHEA. Various tissues can convert DHEA to either androgens (testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, androstenedione) or estrogens (estrone, estradiol). DHEA studies have reported significant androgen increases in women, at a 50 mg and higher dosage 18,19,20,21 and a decreased testosterone level in men, combined with an increase in estradiol 21, which can result in acne, oily skin, facial hair growth in women, and irritability, insomnia, fatigue, and breast enlargement in men
Also, DHEA is NOT recommended for people under 30 years of age, unless indicated by blood testing; or for pregnant or nursing women; or people at risk for breast, uterine or prostate cancer.
this came frorm smart magazine. they have test kits to see if your low in dhea.
One note. DHEA is illegal in many countries because it IS a very powerful master hormone. It does work, HOWEVER, I have read that only a certain percentage of the population has the corrected enzymes to metabolize it into testosterone and androgenic durivatives. I think the figure I read one time stated only 30 or 40% of male population. This accounts for the always poor results when studied. Not only that, apparently many men have a strong likelihood of coverting it to estrogen.
I took DHEA when it first hit the market and it was a different beast all together. It was definitely converted to a stage beyond DHEA. Most likely it was Androstenedione. Then around the time off all the Mark Mcquire hype it seemed to have been revamped to the lighter version available today. The brand I took then was just a GNC and 50mgs would blow your head off. I tried it several times when I found it, but could never last more than 7 days due to the strong effects. Strength in the gym was out of site. I could work out for 3 hours and then I would find myself pumping up my bicepts at home later that evening. Energy out the ass.!! The side effects that really kept driving me off of it were IMMEDIATE hair loss, night sweats and vivid dreams, and finally my heart would start to hurt too bad. By the way, if anyone knows what this sounds like then please chime in. I am curious if these are the results I would see from Masteron. But it worked. 10 years later once naturally low, I went on TRT and also endeavored my first experience with high dosage testosterone. I can tell you that while supping test, whether it be 200mgs/week, or even as high as 2000mgs/wk for 3 weeks straight. I never got an androgenic reaction. I did have to back down from the 2k dosage due to the extreme anabolic effect causing extreme shortness of breath. All that and it never has put any lead in my pencil. Regarding the DHEA today. As stated I am getting great results from it. Nothing like when it first hit the market, but far more than test. Like you stated, it has to break down the same lines. I believe it must become testosterone prior to converting to any androgen durivatives. So why does it work and testosterone injections dont? Perhaps it does still contain some already matured andogens. This is all I can come up with. My DHEA labs always turn up ok.
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Originally Posted by newbie23
The biggest concern over DHEA supplementation is the issue of androgen/estrogen production from DHEA. Various tissues can convert DHEA to either androgens (testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, androstenedione) or estrogens (estrone, estradiol). DHEA studies have reported significant androgen increases in women, at a 50 mg and higher dosage 18,19,20,21 and a decreased testosterone level in men, combined with an increase in estradiol 21, which can result in acne, oily skin, facial hair growth in women, and irritability, insomnia, fatigue, and breast enlargement in men
Also, DHEA is NOT recommended for people under 30 years of age, unless indicated by blood testing; or for pregnant or nursing women; or people at risk for breast, uterine or prostate cancer.
this came frorm smart magazine. they have test kits to see if your low in dhea.
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