Sustanon 250, D-bols, Clomid....

[szpkilla]

Hello,
I have the following products:
1.10 amps of sustanon 250
2.200 5mg tabs Bionabol
3.30 30mg tabs of clomid

Can someone please help me create a first cycle with the following amount of steroids. I am looking to gain as much mass and strength as possible with a healthy diet and proper training. I am up for all help and suggestions. Thanks

[spound]

Give us stats and age and past cycle experience....What are your thoughts on it? Are you educated enough on the subject to plan your own cycle? Not a flame just asking, Tell me this stuff and i can help you out

[szpkilla]

I am 20 yrs old 6 feet 7 inches tall and 245lbs. I have seen many cycles out on the web but what do you guys think a good cycle with these products would be? Thios is my first cycle btw. Thanks

[spound]

I don't really understand the scotsman post and im not really sure i agree w/ pyramidding the dosages like that either. For a first cycle, i would suggest this:
Wk 1-10: 250mg(1 amp) twice/wk (500mg/week total);looks like you will need more sust.
wk 13-15: clomid (300mg day1, 100mg day 2-11, 50mg day 12-21)
I'm not familiar w/ the drug Bionabol, but if you can get some Dbol (might be same thing i dunno) i would use about 35mg every day for the first 5 weeks.

This would give you some good size and strength gains for your first cycle. Just make sure you have researched enough to know what you are doing and are ready for your first cycle since you are still young. Good luck. If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

[crewboss]

you need twice as much sus. here's why:

you need to inject sus twice a week. that's 500mg/wk

at 500mg/wk you only have enough for 5 weeks, which is pretty pointless when using a test which takes 3-4 weeks to kick in. you're going to need 8-12 weeks.

source 10 more amps and from there, follow spound's regimen above and you'll be good to go. keep some nolva on hand too. lay off the booze, especially in the first 5 weeks on the d-bol.

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

ya i dont get the scotsmans idea on pyramid doses either. I kind of thought that was outdated and proven not as effective.

Crewboss is right about the amount of test you need. Get your hands on some more and you will be set.

Also, I didn't see any anti-e's in there. I hope you plan on running some such as Nolva or A-dex.

[szpkilla]

Since this is my first cycle is there any way to get by on just 10 amps of sust bc that is all I have at the moment and getting more would be a huge hassle? Thanks for the help

[Aaron]

You shouldnt even think of running a cycle without novaldex on hand. Cause if you start to get titties and start popping them clomids, which are weak compared to noval anyways, you wont have anything for recovery. Plus 30 clomids arent shit to stop gyno. I would also get my hands on arimidex too. Its not hard to get stuff just stick around for a while, read the classifieds, and if your lacking the funds to get the right amount, I'm guessin you don't have the funds to eat more food, buy protein powder, vitamins, pins, liver protectants and all the other neccessary items to run a cycle correctly.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by TheScotsman

He's just a kid starting mate, he surely ain't gonna have gyno on his first cycle with 10 sus and 200 dbol ! So nolva is far to be paramount ! As for arimidex, i don't see the point for a first cycle, just a big waste of money. Most of bodybuilders don't take arimidex, the only ones i met who did were competing because it's such a specific product not to mention very toxic.

Well on my first cycle of test and tren I had to drop the tren do to itchy nips and just ran 400mg of test per week, no dbol, and needed .25mg of dex and 10mg of noval per day just to keep the titties away. It differs from person to person and cycle to cycle so no matter what you are running always have noval.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by TheScotsman

Yes, "symptoms" differ from people to people. I don't think nolvadex is always necessary but yes it's good to have on hand in case nipples start to itch. Arimidex is totally useless for a first, second, third cycle though. It's a product aimed at specific results/goals.

What tren were you cycling Aaron ? I never heard that Tren gives you itchy nipples, intoxicates your kidneys and give you soft dick yes but itchy nippes i never heard that it was part of trenbolone's side effects...

I was using an UG labs tren which I know was legit do to insomnia, night sweats, hard muscle, big pumps etc. Tren can make your nipples hurt do to progesterone/prolactin related gyno.

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

ya, tren def can give you gyno symptoms. Also I think the kid should be safe then sorry. You say A-dex is a waste of money, well would you rather not spend the money on that and rather spend it on the plastic surgery to remove his new A-cups? I would just use a-dex and block the production of estrogen.

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

Im just saying rather be safe then sorry. I don't know any guy that wants to run around with puffy nips... Do you? Why not knock out the chance of haveing gyno period and take adex to begin with? God forbid you don't get water weight and look leaner then without on top of that.

[ThAnAtOs]

arimidex is cool i like it

[szpkilla]

Thanks for all the help guys I really appreciate it.
-SZ (the kid) heh

[Rauschgift]

run the sust @ 250mg/wk and the d-bol (if that's what you have) @ 35mg day spread out evenly throughout the day for 5 weeks. You should see some decent results since your only 20 and it's your first cycle. Although you should try to get more sust I think you would be happier in the end.

P.S. Have a little nolvadax on hand just in case.