Switching compounds - cruise or not to cruise?

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When you switch to a new compound, keeping Test as your base, have you found that your gains improve if you go on a "cruise" period of say 250mg Test /week for 4-6 weeks before jumping back on your full dose of Test and new compound? Or does it make little/no difference compared to keeping your Test dose consistant and just adding/removing secondary compounds when trying to get the gains going again?

Keep in mind I don't mean bridge, as in do PCT while running a non-aromatising AAS like var or primo. I mean staying on and bridging together 2 larger cycles with a lower dose of Test to "down-regulate" receptors so as to not have to keep upping your Test.

sample cycle w/ cruise period:

1-10: Test E 750mg /week
1-10: Deca 400mg /week

11-16: Test E 250mg /week (cruise period)

17-26: Test E 750mg /week
17-26: EQ 600mg /week

[ronnievanzant]

I doubt it's going to make any difference. 250mg/wk test is still several times what your body is producing naturally and will shut down your HPTA. There's not any problem with wks 11-16 of just test, but I'd keep the dosage the same unless you have a compelling reason to lower it.

-RVZ

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Originally Posted by ronnievanzant

I doubt it's going to make any difference. 250mg/wk test is still several times what your body is producing naturally and will shut down your HPTA. There's not any problem with wks 11-16 of just test, but I'd keep the dosage the same unless you have a compelling reason to lower it.

-RVZ

The purpose has nothing to do with HTPA, obviously it would still be shut down but thats not the point if you read my post.

[ronnievanzant]

Let's make sure I have this straight. Essentially what you are trying to accomplish is make your body more responsive to the additional AAS you will be adding in later weeks while admittedly shutting down your own HPTA. So if you are referring to androgen receptor up/down-regulation, you are asking a question that any answer someone can give you is speculative, at best. What I mean is that some studies show evidence of AAS actually induce the splitting and formation of new AR sites. The 250mg/wk of test is still binding to the AR at a much greater rate than your natural hormone levels would allow, sooo, I would just leave the test levels the same and maybe use a mild anabolic like anavar. But, perhaps it's worth giving it a try and seeing how your body responds.

-RVZ

[Ivan_Drago]

For what its worth, that's what I do. I stay on a base of Test year round and kick it into high gear a couple of times a year. For example, last year, I used 500-600mg of Test all year , then added some Deca and Dbol for an 10 week bulker from May through early July. Then I upped the Test to 900mg and added EQ for 10 more weeks. Oh yeah, I also cycled proviron and Masteron periodically. Of course this is the time to go all out on your anti-E's, Clen, t-3, etc.
After the Summer, it's back to the Test base for about three months. This is a time to rest, relax, watch football, and just chill out. Now its Winter and I'm on a Test, Deca, Drol bulker. After that, it's up to 900mg of Test as I maintain my new size 'til May, When the Summer cycle starts.
Good luck,
Ivan

[ronnievanzant]

Damn, Drago. That's a lot of sauce. Don't get me wrong, I'm a sauce-whore myself. How's your blood work? I think if I did that much test year-round, my HDL would be about 10.

-RVZ

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Originally Posted by ronnievanzant

Let's make sure I have this straight. Essentially what you are trying to accomplish is make your body more responsive to the additional AAS you will be adding in later weeks while admittedly shutting down your own HPTA. So if you are referring to androgen receptor up/down-regulation, you are asking a question that any answer someone can give you is speculative, at best. What I mean is that some studies show evidence of AAS actually induce the splitting and formation of new AR sites. The 250mg/wk of test is still binding to the AR at a much greater rate than your natural hormone levels would allow, sooo, I would just leave the test levels the same and maybe use a mild anabolic like anavar. But, perhaps it's worth giving it a try and seeing how your body responds.

-RVZ

Yup you got it now, I'm looking more for experiances than studies, they're always more valuble to me anyway.
The point of it all being to avoid increasing doses and straining your body further and I don't like to go past 1g of Test anyway, my hair doesn't like it.
I've seen it done many times, but never found out the results unfortunetly. I am going to try it starting in about 2 weeks, any more experiances would be a great help to me!