Symptoms of liver problems

[Jefftd77]

What are some symptoms of liver problems? Aches? Pains? Urine problems? Sorry, I’m still a newbie and getting information where I live from knowledgeable people is difficult. Also, I'm taking Stanozolo 50mg/day but Milk Thistle is really tough to come by (I live in Thailand) so I only have enough Milk Thistle to take 200mg per day for the rest of my cycle (another 2 weeks). Is there anything else I can take instead of Milk Thistle? Thanks for any help.

[BigLibby]

Originally Posted by Jefftd77

What are some symptoms of liver problems? Aches? Pains? Urine problems? Sorry, I’m still a newbie and getting information where I live from knowledgeable people is difficult. Also, I'm taking Stanozolo 50mg/day but Milk Thistle is really tough to come by (I live in Thailand) so I only have enough Milk Thistle to take 200mg per day for the rest of my cycle (another 2 weeks). Is there anything else I can take instead of Milk Thistle? Thanks for any help.

Bro the only real way is to get blood work done.... you should ALWAYS get tested before, durning and after

[armsports]

The only way to know for sure if you are having problems is to look at the liver enzyme values via a blood test. Having said that, if you have pain and/or swelling in the right upper quadrant ( under the lower part of your rib cage on the right side) you may want to back off the orals for awhile. If you are jaundiced (yellowing in whites of eyes, nausea, etc.) then you should see a doc.

[TheSpectre]

Aches in the liver area (right side right below the rib cage) is a first sign. Yellowing of the fingernails is as well (the bottom where the cuticle is). There are no Asian herb shops around town? I thought most Asians believed in herbal cures for most ailments.

[spound]

From my personal experience, whenever i took Dbol, i had pains in the lower left and right quadrants of my back like in the kidney region under the rib cage. Whenever i gave a firm tap to this region you could really feel the pain. I even had some blood in my urine one time (it was a rusty color) at just 25mg/day so i got off immediately. That shit scared me so i try to stay away from orals

[BigLibby]

I must have SUPER LIVER, last cycle I ran d-bol @75mg ed for 8 weeks with almost no change in liver values... and when I came off they were back to where they started

Originally Posted by spound

From my personal experience, whenever i took Dbol, i had pains in the lower left and right quadrants of my back like in the kidney region under the rib cage. Whenever i gave a firm tap to this region you could really feel the pain. I even had some blood in my urine one time (it was a rusty color) at just 25mg/day so i got off immediately. That shit scared me so i try to stay away from orals

[jaysmithinwesson]

also yellowing of the skin and in your eyes.

[Sack]

Originally Posted by BigLibby

I must have SUPER LIVER, last cycle I ran d-bol @75mg ed for 8 weeks with almost no change in liver values... and when I came off they were back to where they started

I AM NOT TRYING TO BE AN ASSHOLE, BUT THAT IS IMPOSIBLE. YOUR LIVER VALUES WILL GO UP IF YOUR TAKING TO MUCH ACETAMENOPHINE OR IBEPROPHEN. YOU WERE TAKING A C17 ALPHA ALKYLATED DRUG. YOUR LIVER VALUES WILL GO UP NO MATTER WHAT, ESPECIALLY AT THAT DOSE. TOM PRINCE LIVER AND KIDNEYS FAILED ON HIM FROM JUST THE IBEPROPHEN HE WAS TAKING. HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE ROIDS.
BE CARFUL BIG LIB, I DONT WANT YOU TO DIE

[milesfan]

I got pains in my kidney region from 75mg of anadrol, i laid of for two days loaded up on milk thistle 3 pills a day for the rest of the cycle, the pain subsided slightly.

It only seemed to bother me at night though.

So yes get milk thistle. Some vet told me to eat liver and onions, im still researching that one.

[einstein1905]

Originally Posted by Sack

I AM NOT TRYING TO BE AN ASSHOLE, BUT THAT IS IMPOSIBLE. YOUR LIVER VALUES WILL GO UP IF YOUR TAKING TO MUCH ACETAMENOPHINE OR IBEPROPHEN. YOU WERE TAKING A C17 ALPHA ALKYLATED DRUG. YOUR LIVER VALUES WILL GO UP NO MATTER WHAT, ESPECIALLY AT THAT DOSE. TOM PRINCE LIVER AND KIDNEYS FAILED ON HIM FROM JUST THE IBEPROPHEN HE WAS TAKING. HE THOUGHT IT WAS THE ROIDS.
BE CARFUL BIG LIB, I DONT WANT YOU TO DIE

He said "almost no change". Heavy lifting alone will increase liver values. The toxicity of the 17aa's people here are using is overexaggerated. I assume he was lifting before he began his cycle, all through his cycle, and after his cycle. Having only a slight elevation while "on" is about right. Most people won't get their baseline levels checked before taking 17aa's so they don't see their elevated, relative to nonlifters, liver enzyme values. So, when they get their liver test results back, they are significantly higher than average (sedentary people's average) and are at the upper limits or above those sedentary people's normal range.