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Old 04-19-2004, 09:41 PM
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Need comments from guys who have done the conversion for Syonvex H and if they had gyno etc. Obviously If you don't get rid of the estrogen
You will get Gyno. I am wondering if there are guys who have done the conversion with no gyno of simply left the estrogen in it and didn't get gyno?
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Need comments from guys who have done the conversion for Syonvex H and if they had gyno etc. Obviously If you don't get rid of the estrogen
You will get Gyno. I am wondering if there are guys who have done the conversion with no gyno of simply left the estrogen in it and didn't get gyno?
I do it all the time,,only after using for an extended period did I get a little gyno symptoms which disappeared after use without the use of ancillaries. I really don't have problems with gyno in the first place though. If you are someone who can use it without problems it's some good stuff.
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It is possible to separate the test prop from the estradiol. You need to prudent. If you attempt it then be sure to have your estradiol levels checked while using your product. It is a cheap test and will save you allot of problems.
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It is possible to separate the test prop from the estradiol. You need to prudent. If you attempt it then be sure to have your estradiol levels checked while using your product. It is a cheap test and will save you allot of problems.
Hey Rod,
What is prudent? How do you mean regarding the usage of this word? Is there a written procedure for seperating the Estradiol out during processing or from the finished product? Is there a way to check if you have done the procedure correctly besides checking your blood level?

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What is prudent? How do you mean regarding the usage of this word? Is there a written procedure for separating the Estradiol out during processing or from the finished product? Is there a way to check if you have done the procedure correctly besides checking your blood level?

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"Is there a way to check if you have done the procedure correctly besides checking your blood level?"

Yes, test the melting point. The melting point for test prop is 248-251.6 F.

"Is there a written procedure for separating the Estradiol out during processing or from the finished product?"

I have not written a procedural outline, but I do know how to do it. Dazed gives a good outline.

"What is prudent? How do you mean regarding the usage of this word?"

Check blood levels after you are finished. You can do this anonymously through the LEF for 50 dollars or so.

Sorry if I am not coherent, I have had a couple drinks. I may revisit this tomorrow.
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One guy said he used Synovex H with no gyno or a little after a long time on. My question is was it unconverted (estrogen there ) or converted with the estrogen soluble etc. Thanks
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One guy said he used Synovex H with no gyno or a little after a long time on. My question is was it unconverted (estrogen there ) or converted with the estrogen soluble etc. Thanks
Synovex H contains estradiol. Estradiol is the most potent form of estrogen for stimulating gyno. If it is not removed then you may very well develope a nice set of tits. I don't know what the one guy did; I wouldn't use it without removing the estradiol.
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Synovex H contains estradiol. Estradiol is the most potent form of estrogen for stimulating gyno. If it is not removed then you may very well develope a nice set of tits. I don't know what the one guy did; I wouldn't use it without removing the estradiol.
The estrogen soluble chemicle plus the Heat (methanol?) strips the "DIOL" from the estriol and then you simply wash the estrogen away. I am not convinced it doesn't dodamage to the TEST PROP and wash it awy also. I know a few guys at the Company I work for (GIANT dRUG COMPANY ) i HAVE NO ACCESS TO ANY DRUGS THOUGH. I will let you guys know what the LAd enginners says. I guess I could try it and then have them test it for estrogen and Test and see what is left after the process.
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One guy said he used Synovex H with no gyno or a little after a long time on. My question is was it unconverted (estrogen there ) or converted with the estrogen soluble etc. Thanks
Mine was converted with the estrogen still in the mix,,that's the way I always do it,,but of course I don't have problems with gyno,,you'd be surprised at the number of people who use it that way but of course they already have a general idea of how their body will react.

If you're not sure how yours will react I wouldn't recommend it.
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Mine was converted with the estrogen still in the mix,,that's the way I always do it,,but of course I don't have problems with gyno,,you'd be surprised at the number of people who use it that way but of course they already have a general idea of how their body will react.

If you're not sure how yours will react I wouldn't recommend it.

I plan on testing one of those synoveh H kits with the estrogen solubleizer and then sending in the power to a trusted lab I am associated with. I will tell them what I am looking for : test, estrogen, and trace of the "heat type of solvent". It will be interesting. I plan on following the directions and using plenty of water rinse the final product of estogen. I know the engineer or brainchild of the estrgen solubizer claims the method removes the diol from the estrogen and you can wash it away. I suspect it mey damage the test prop also or not work at all.
Remember that around 60 % of the guys who use UNconverted synovex (still has estrogen) get no gyno anyway. I will post the results but it may take a few months.
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I plan on testing one of those synoveh H kits with the estrogen solubleizer and then sending in the power to a trusted lab I am associated with. I will tell them what I am looking for : test, estrogen, and trace of the "heat type of solvent". It will be interesting. I plan on following the directions and using plenty of water rinse the final product of estogen. I know the engineer or brainchild of the estrgen solubizer claims the method removes the diol from the estrogen and you can wash it away. I suspect it mey damage the test prop also or not work at all.
Remember that around 60 % of the guys who use UNconverted synovex (still has estrogen) get no gyno anyway. I will post the results but it may take a few months.
Frank I don't mean to be critical but you may want to take some basic chemistry courses. Inorganic I&II, plus Organic I&II. Just some friendly advice bro.
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Frank I don't mean to be critical but you may want to take some basic chemistry courses. Inorganic I&II, plus Organic I&II. Just some friendly advice bro.
dont someone make a synovex kit to remove the estradiol?

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dont someone make a synovex kit to remove the estradiol?

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Dazed does. It works quite well.
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