t3 & gluco how much?

[bagabones]

going to do next cycle with:

250mg sus every 3 days week 1-10 (this is enough tes for me)
300mg win every 3 days week 3-12 (bigger crystals stay in system longer)
gh 2mg 5days on 2 off week 4-??????
glucopage in replace of insulin
t3
anavar (if i want to bridge maybe?)

dont need to burn fat to much - already lean - only taking t3 to increase gh effect on muscle mass

never done gluco or t3 - have done gh but fucked it up (still got big though)
how long how much when start and finish?

also want to include gh supplementation into pct w/ hcg & clomid
i know about hcg and clomid but how should i run the growth after last tes inj.

say i start gh in week 4 when do i stop

go ahead and slam me thoughts - im not going to cry

p.s. is it ok to mix oil and water in same pin? tried it seemed ok to me???

5'8" 180 lb small frame 29" waiste want to maintain (sp) 200lb then go natural
avarage about 1 or 2 cycles a year usually mild not alot of tes

[bagabones]

correction to previous thread im not taking glycopage but rather the stuff ip sells that is 8x stronger

something like phemn......

[Bigkarch]

well with your go ahead and flame you can take it..I will..(not flame but give you my opinion).

your concoction is a bit wierd to me...susty, winny, maybe var to bridge, gh and t3..all that is not needed for what you want..

personally if you can get var and test (even susty..not my first choice.prop is better here)..that is all you need..test and var..if your training and diet is up to par..that alone will get you what you want...now 20lbs is hard to get with pure muscle alone on one cycle and keep it.....so that is unrealistic....but closer to a lean 10 lbs and keep it..you can do easily on var/prop (test) if you know what you are doing as far as training and diet..if you cant gain that..then you have an issue with training and diet..not aas..

[bagabones]

this doesnt amswer my ????

dosage on t3 and phen.... glocopage

[Bigkarch]

25 mcg of t3

[bagabones]

anybody know about this product IP is offering to take place of glucopage -- starts with ph........

[bagabones]

need more input-

seems to me that sus and winnie w/ gh t3 and glucopage (replacement)
is a reasonable cicle for someone who wants to put on lean lean mass with out water retention

i also know i could easily put on 20 lbs with 250 mg sus alone - - granted some would be water

i am going to take 500 mg sus and about 600mg of winnie per week

taking win and gh is to help make more permanent change to physique and help keep gains -

i will run gh for 3-21 weeks
sus for 1-12 weeks
winnie for 2-14
25 mcg of t3 ed (when do i satrt and finish- read something about 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)

i also still have no idea what im suppose to do with this stuff from ip that is a glucopage replaceemnt and he says is 8x stronger (phe.....)

[bagabones]

bump

????

anybody

[Bigkarch]

drop the glucopage and gh.....drop the damn winny and do a test only cycle..

[Bod]

Quote:seems to me that sus and winnie w/ gh t3 and glucopage (replacement)
is a reasonable cicle for someone who wants to put on lean lean mass with out water retention

How can this seem like a reasonable cycle to you if the only response you got told you this was not a good cycle and told you to drop half the things on it?

[bagabones]

because i can read

and im not going to throw away my cycle because 1 person says it sucks with out giving me a reason

give a reason

done the tes only thing - dont like it swell up then shrink - class 1 ster. stick to me better - done winstrol and like -
done sus and like - growing with out all the water- done sus and winstrol cycle and kept almost all of gains and didnt even have to try to hard- didnt crash after and ive been off cycle for 3 months

hoping gh will only give more

maybe this isnt a good cycle maybe im wrong - give reason

[Bigkarch]

bro..I dont mean to disrespect you. you asked a questioned and I answered it....you want me to prove why..give you reason why....I answer this type of question over and over and over and over and over again...sorry if I sound rude....I gave you my opinion..it does not matter why you should not do what you proposed but why should you not do what I say........you say, prove why you should not do what you propose, but prove why you should not do what I suggest...

[Bigkarch]

Originally Posted by bagabones

because i can read

and im not going to throw away my cycle because 1 person says it sucks with out giving me a reason

give a reason

done the tes only thing - dont like it swell up then shrink - class 1 ster. stick to me better - done winstrol and like -
done sus and like - growing with out all the water- done sus and winstrol cycle and kept almost all of gains and didnt even have to try to hard- didnt crash after and ive been off cycle for 3 months

hoping gh will only give more

maybe this isnt a good cycle maybe im wrong - give reason

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does not make sense..you say you have done a susty or test only cycle and you swell up ..but if you add winny its ok...bullshit...winny does not deplete bloat (estrogen)..there are too many factors that you dont understand..

you also say you wont stop the cycle if only one person says its wrong...if you are doing good on that type of cycle, why ask advice if it works for you..you asked then disregard my advice..why ask anyway..

[bagabones]

my responce wasnt so much directed at you- i do respect your opinion
i was responding to the other guys post-

im not saying that win takes away tes bloat - what i meen to say is that i dont bloat w/ win (of course) and not to badly w/ sus

enanthate or cyp turn my face into a balloon - severe - my body is small frame and semi lean - my face turns so round i look fat w/ shirt on

i could take your advice and do sus only but i have found that im less likely to lose weight post cycle w/ winnie on board

maybe this isnt true but it seems to work for me

as far as gh im curious- i got a bunch for a buddy and that ass never came through w/ money - been sitting in my closet for a while

figure i will give it a go

looking for info on t3 (which you gave me)
also need info on phenformin

cant find it anywhere- except from non body building sites

[bagabones]

by the way guys - if you read my first post - again-

my question wasnt what you thought of my winnie sus combo-

more so about t3, gh , and phenformin or glucopage cycle

i asked -

if doing gh and want to continue after tes has stopped through pcts to help avoid catabolism ----- how many weeks to run gh after last inj of sus

my guess is 8 weeks ?????

when to start t3 and stop t3 (never done t3 before)

and how to take phenformin (never done phenformin before)