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Question T3 with MGF/ IGF-1 LR3

Hey guys, can anyone tell me if it would be okay to run T3 with my IGF-1 LR3/ MGF cycle? I will run the cycle for 6 weeks with a T3 cycle that follows:
25mcg x 3 days
50mcg x 3 days
75mcg x 28 days
50mcg x 3 days
25mcg x 3 days

I've been told NOT to run T# without using TEST, 150mg to 200mg EOD. Any input would be great. Thanks for the help
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Hey guys, can anyone tell me if it would be okay to run T3 with my IGF-1 LR3/ MGF cycle? I will run the cycle for 6 weeks with a T3 cycle that follows:
25mcg x 3 days
50mcg x 3 days
75mcg x 28 days
50mcg x 3 days
25mcg x 3 days

I've been told NOT to run T# without using TEST, 150mg to 200mg EOD. Any input would be great. Thanks for the help

T3 is catabolic, thats why you have been advised to run Test w

Your Doseage looks good, You might want to run it at 75mcg for 7days, then 100mcg for 7days, then back to 75mcg and then taper off, but it's up to you.

Clen would be a good addition to this mix, is it just a little cutter or what?
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Sort of man...Im at 16%BF now and I would like to steadily drop my BF down for the summer. I have seen guys posting fat loss success from IGF-1 LR3 alone, but thought maybe withthe use of T3 it might help more so I wouldn't have to diet as hard. I planned to run a TESt Prop/ Clen-ECT stack/ T3 cycle in the end of May. I wanna look ripped on the 4th of July (family get together). So should I not run the T3 w/o Test?
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Sort of man...Im at 16%BF now and I would like to steadily drop my BF down for the summer. I have seen guys posting fat loss success from IGF-1 LR3 alone, but thought maybe withthe use of T3 it might help more so I wouldn't have to diet as hard. I planned to run a TESt Prop/ Clen-ECT stack/ T3 cycle in the end of May. I wanna look ripped on the 4th of July (family get together). So should I not run the T3 w/o Test?

Mate,if you wanna cut you have to diet hard.There is no easy way round this by drugs alone.Drugs play a small part in getting cut,diet is 90%.Drugs just give you that little extra help.

If you wanna do a prop/clen/eca/T3 stack i would reccomend this.

Dosages in this order.prop/clen/eca/T3.

Clen you may have to adjust to suit your tolerance.I do 120mcg a day,you may want less,i don't know.Just go by how you feel.Take clen all in one go in the morning.T3 take twice a day.You don't need to pyramid clen but you do T3.

This is a 8 week cycle.

week 1:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/25mcg
week 2:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/50mcg
week 3:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/75mcg
week 4:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/100mcg
week 5:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/100mcg
week 6:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/75mcg
week 7:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/50mcg
week 8:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/25mcg

Drop your calories by 600 a day under maintenance level and do 30 to 45 minutes cardio every day.

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Mate,if you wanna cut you have to diet hard.There is no easy way round this by drugs alone.Drugs play a small part in getting cut,diet is 90%.Drugs just give you that little extra help.

If you wanna do a prop/clen/eca/T3 stack i would reccomend this.

Dosages in this order.prop/clen/eca/T3.

Clen you may have to adjust to suit your tolerance.I do 120mcg a day,you may want less,i don't know.Just go by how you feel.Take clen all in one go in the morning.T3 take twice a day.You don't need to pyramid clen but you do T3.

This is a 8 week cycle.

week 1:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/25mcg
week 2:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/50mcg
week 3:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/75mcg
week 4:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/100mcg
week 5:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/100mcg
week 6:150mg EOD/100mcg/no ECA/75mcg
week 7:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/50mcg
week 8:150mg EOD/no clen/ECA/25mcg

Drop your calories by 600 a day under maintenance level and do 30 to 45 minutes cardio every day.

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Really good advice, that might be a little long to run T3 that whole time, but that is debatable

You can throw IGF-1 in there at 50mcg EOD or E3Ds. Tren would help too, depending on your cycle history if you want to try it, or you may already have used it..
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I never had to go over 50mcg and was loosing weight almost to fast. Lost strength with the weight. I lost 10lbs in 2 weeks. then stopped. Used ephedrine with it.
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Really good advice, that might be a little long to run T3 that whole time, but that is debatable

You can throw IGF-1 in there at 50mcg EOD or E3Ds. Tren would help too, depending on your cycle history if you want to try it, or you may already have used it..

You can run T3 for up to 3 months without any problems.More than that then i would be very careful.As long as you pyramid your cycle you will have no problems on an 8 weeker.With this cycle you would not need tren.Tren is not a cutting drug.Yes it can add lean mass but you do not need it to cut.You can cut on test alone if you get your diet and cardio right.

We are talking about a 'summer beach' look not a competition cut which is what i am sure 99% of meso members are looking for.

If we are looking for a competition cut then that is a different story.


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You can run T3 for up to 3 months without any problems.More than that then i would be very careful.As long as you pyramid your cycle you will have no problems on an 8 weeker.With this cycle you would not need tren.Tren is not a cutting drug.Yes it can add lean mass but you do not need it to cut.You can cut on test alone if you get your diet and cardio right.

We are talking about a 'summer beach' look not a competition cut which is what i am sure 99% of meso members are looking for.

If we are looking for a competition cut then that is a different story.


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Agreed, the best cutter is a good diet

but tren A can really result in a loss of bodyfat w a gain of lean mass, therefore making you look more "cut"

I am running a Tren Ace/Test Prop/Var cycle in summer for 8 weeks
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Damn brothers...I didn't anticipate this kind of response! Thanks everyone for their input. I am gonna try the T3 with my IGF-1 LR3/ MGF cycle. At a lower dose, with adequate protein intake I think I should be ok. I plan to post before and after photos. Thanks agin guys for the posts.
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Damn brothers...I didn't anticipate this kind of response! Thanks everyone for their input. I am gonna try the T3 with my IGF-1 LR3/ MGF cycle. At a lower dose, with adequate protein intake I think I should be ok. I plan to post before and after photos. Thanks agin guys for the posts.

T3 is very catabolic and destroys muscle tissue if used without steroids.I would take some test with it mate.


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Agreed, the best cutter is a good diet

but tren A can really result in a loss of bodyfat w a gain of lean mass, therefore making you look more "cut"

I am running a Tren Ace/Test Prop/Var cycle in summer for 8 weeks

Sounds a good cycle mate.With the right diet you should look in excellent condition at the end of the cycle.


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I was just reading my post where i say 'tren is not a cutting drug'.What i meant was it is not a fat burning drug like clen/ECA/T3 etc..It is a drug to be used in a cutting cycle to help maintain muscle mass.Sorry if i sounded like an idiot lol!.

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I'll just run the IGF-1 LR3/ MGF by itself, then how about a Primo/ Test E/ Dbol/ T3 cycle? A 12 week run with everything but the T3 until the last 8 weeks. Like this:
Wk 1-12: Primobolan 200mg/wk
Test E 250mg/wk
Dbol 40mg/day
T3 (as indicated in previous post above)

* run Nolva/ Clomid/ Arimidex for PCT 4 weeks with IGF-1 LR3 (6 weeks)

What do you guys think?
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I'll just run the IGF-1 LR3/ MGF by itself, then how about a Primo/ Test E/ Dbol/ T3 cycle? A 12 week run with everything but the T3 until the last 8 weeks. Like this:
Wk 1-12: Primobolan 200mg/wk
Test E 250mg/wk
Dbol 40mg/day
T3 (as indicated in previous post above)

* run Nolva/ Clomid/ Arimidex for PCT 4 weeks with IGF-1 LR3 (6 weeks)

What do you guys think?

dbol doesn't fit in that cycle, its a bulker

if you want an oral try anavar or tbol

primo is expensive

you'd be better off w Test E at 500mg/week

and either Tren at 400mg/week or EQ at 400-600mg/ week
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I'll just run the IGF-1 LR3/ MGF by itself, then how about a Primo/ Test E/ Dbol/ T3 cycle? A 12 week run with everything but the T3 until the last 8 weeks. Like this:
Wk 1-12: Primobolan 200mg/wk
Test E 250mg/wk
Dbol 40mg/day
T3 (as indicated in previous post above)

* run Nolva/ Clomid/ Arimidex for PCT 4 weeks with IGF-1 LR3 (6 weeks)

What do you guys think?

You are over complicating things mate.You do not need the dbol in that cycle.If you want to run a 12 weeker i would do either primo at 400mg a week,or test at 150mg EOD prop or if using enanthate 500mg a week.As you say i would use T3 for 8 weeks.

I would run PCT for 6 weeks and run IGF at the same time.

I would even run clen at 40mcg a day through the 6 weeks PCT.It will help with cortisol levels.


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