T400

[MrBman]

hey guys i gotta question in regards to a new type of test i bought - its T400 - 150mg of Test Cyp ... 150mg Test Enanthate and 100mg Test Deconate ... would taking two shots (1cc each) a week be sufficient for bulking - this is my second cycle - i know it comes out to 800mg/week ... and i understand that Cyp and Enanthate have similar half lifes - but im kindve confused about the different esters here ... whats the point of putting two esters with similar half lifes in the same bottle of test ... ?

any feed back would be greatly appreciated ...

[bigbench]

Well, not sure about that either. Maybe the thought was that they would act on diff receptors in the body, but test is test so I dont know why they would do that. But yes, 800mgs is quite enough. Are you taking anything else? Is this your first cycle?

[MrBman]

no bud, this is a test only cycle - its not my first one ... its my second - i just have some nolvadex on hand in case our good friend gyno attempts to make an appearance ...

im gonna take HCG and clomid after ... im currently 210, 13%bodyfat ... kinda hoping to crack 220/225

[bigbench]

So, did u take 500mgs first time around?

[MrBman]

lol actually noo - u might find this odd but it worked great for me - i did a light cutter consisting of 300mgs of Testosterone Prop and 150mgs of injectable winny per week ... it was my first cycle

Basically one shot every day (6days a week) ... 100mgs prop -> 50mg Winny -> 100mgs prop -> .... body fat dropped from a grotesque 22percent to 10percent in a matter of weeks ... no joke ....

i also gained a lot of lean muscle mass ... it was the most incredible transformation ive seen, beleive me u can keep the results u attain from winny - my bodyfat only went up 2percent when i stopped - now that im bulking im bobbling up from 13 to 14 percent ... still look a hundred times better than i did before ...

[bigbench]

then, I would say go to five to six hundred mgs a week. You wont need more than that. its going to be more about diet to gain size than anything else, but if your eating 4-5000 cals a day and still not seeing your results (after a month to 6 weeks) then you could maybe up it to 750 or so. But to go from what you did to 800mgs, would be a big jump and not needed

[MrBman]

thanks man, i agree ill see how i do on 600mgs of test ... but your right, its basically going to come down to diet and proper training

[bigbench]

What does ur diet and training look like? You pretty square on it?

[MrBman]

The training regiment consists of - One Muscle Group a Day ... Chest -> Back-> Shoulders -> Arms -> Legs - Rest Day Rest Day ... Sometimes i hit arms twice a week - by doing triceps after chest and biceps after back ... and then htting arms seperately on my final training day for that week ...


My diet is still a bit iffy - im basically trying to get as my calories as i can through eating Red Meats ... Lots of Dairy ... Lots of whole grain carbs as well things like bananas, rice etc... i know this is terrible but on days im not getting sufficient calories, i have been eating fast food ...

i start my day with 6 eggs, 4 peaces toast and 3 glasses of milk, 1 multivitamin as my first meal

my second meal consist of a wrap with ground beef cheese and a few veggies, more milk

my third meal is usually a bit unhealthy - 2 jamican beef patties, a cheese sandwich, 2 glasses of orange juice and a multi-vitamin

my third meal consists of pasta and one whole chicken breast (40grams of protein according to the box)

I train two hours after my last meal

I have a protein shake immediately after my training session consisting of 50grams of protein, 40grams of carbs, sometimes ill even add in some yogurt, i always use milk as my liquid of choice

an hour after this meal ill have another 2chicken breast, 2 peaces of toast, some pasta and some veggies

3hours after this ill have a light snack conssiting of two glasses of milk, a few babie cookies (i kinda like their taste) and a banana


- im averaging round 3000 - 4000 calories a day - well assuming atleast ... i havent really noticed the test yet, besides feeling a little agitated this week ... (its my 3rd week of injecting, took my my first shot for this week on monday -im hoping it starts to kick in this week)

like i said the diet is still a bit crappy atleast my i feel it needs some work - im still around 210 ... ive actually dropped a bit of fat ... in the last week ... that was somewhat surprising ... im not noticing much water retention, i started getting a bit veiny too - maybe im not eating enough?

i have been watching my sodium intake very closely ... days i eat salt - my face ends up looking like a basketball - no joke ...

[mr.nitro]

in my oppinion, multi estered testosterone is more of a marketing ploy. I don't think its any different then 1 ester but people like the idea so they buy it.