Takin Juice again after yrs of HPTA problems

[Datwood]

I have used the juice for over 10 years 7 of them years was little break. I took everything from lots of dbol and anadrol to 1500mg test. I never took HCG or clomid when comming off and rarely took anti estrogens cause i didnt want to risk size (I know stupid). The result was my nuts were marble and my sex drive was non existant even when I was on 1000mg test no sex drive! I battled this for years. When I went off it took me over 2 years to even get aroused again with HCG and clomid off and on for 2 years. Then after so much hard times and years later I was finally back to semi normal. So at that time I decided to take 200 mg test per week and after 45 days I was shut down again with no sex drive just from 200mg of test. Its been over a year since I touched anything.

Although my sex drive is pretty much back to 70% now I still feel like crap from low test. I really miss being on cause I always felt good besides the hpta. So I am very tempted to take a cycle again. Has anyone else ever not been able to get erect while ON a cycle of test? Everyone I have spoke to said they never have sex drive issues while on test just when they come off. Well for me even 200mg test shuts me down.

So here I am feeling like crap with 70% sex drive which isnt going to get any better than that and Im going to start up again. This time I MUST do this the right way. Im 32 and cant fuck myself up again. So my question is has anyone gone through this on here and what types of drugs should I take if Im the type who shuts down easily? Is there anything that I could take and not be out of commission for another 2 years? I was thinking primo, eq, anavar ? but without taking any test (test levels is till low) is this not good because I need it but at the same time it shuts me down. Damn I need som ehelp here. What should I do? What drugs should I take to get lean and not beat myself up again?? Thanks!

[MrBman]

dude ... before you even consider another cycle, have you gotten a check up? have you seen a doctor, gotten blood tests done and been checked out by an endocrinologist?

[bigbench]

Well, first thing. You keep saying that even 200mgs shuts you down. As little as 10mgs of test will shut you down. As far as shutting down your sex drive, that is completely different. That has to do with your blood work. You need to get a complete check up and find out what is out of whack, and if it can be corrected. You could have some serious adrenal problems and such a low dose of test would not allow for a lot of "free" test in the body. You could also have very high SHGB levels too. You need to go to an endocrine specialist and get a complete workup to find out what is going on before you even THINK about another cycle.

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by bigbench

Well, first thing. You keep saying that even 200mgs shuts you down. As little as 10mgs of test will shut you down. As far as shutting down your sex drive, that is completely different. That has to do with your blood work. You need to get a complete check up and find out what is out of whack, and if it can be corrected. You could have some serious adrenal problems and such a low dose of test would not allow for a lot of "free" test in the body. You could also have very high SHGB levels too. You need to go to an endocrine specialist and get a complete workup to find out what is going on before you even THINK about another cycle.

Take note of this cos your health is worth more than just feelin good for a few weeks, and building a bit of temporary muscle. cos thats what it'll be if you cant get yourself back on line in good time. you could have some long term problems there for all you know and from what ive heard Id take a good natural stack with a good routine, amino acids and a good diet. natural training and look after your health for the rest of your days. thats just my opinion but if your gonna take anything make sure you talk to your doc first and do loads of research on how to go about this for gods sake!!!!!!!!!

[Datwood]

Hey guys thanks for the input I know its pretty dumb to do another cycle. The reason behind this is its lawyas been a goal of mine to do a competition and Im 32 and never done one so I figure this is my last hoorah. If I dont do it now I will prob never do it and regret it later. I also may regret even taking gear again as well. I will get a my blood work done for sure before I consider taking anything. Maybe my doc will say hang up the dream man and if he does then so be it. Thanks again!

[bigbench]

Dont say its too late. Look at 90% of the pros, they are all in their 30's. The body actually has much more muscle maturity as well as a much easier time holding on to new muscle so you are actually heading in to a prime time to pack on size

[Datwood]

Right on man thanks for the encouragement. Your absolutely right. If the doc doesnt give the green light then I will just do a natural show. Kind of hard to imagine doing a natural but its better than none.