Tbol question

[shm772]

I have some Tbol on hand. After my surgery on 7/24 and subsequent healing time there after , I plan on running 10 wks of Test E 500 mg/wk and EQ at 500/wk for 12wks. I want to throw in the Tbol , although I'm unsure of how much , how long, or when in my cycle? also what kind of results should I see with the Tbol? And by the way I am one hell of a good lookin dude if this helps at all

[andysutils]

not a lot and it takes a good while to see proper results from tbol anyway and even then the gains aint that good
it takes about 4-5 weeks for big results to start coming on from the tbol, thats the time it takes for the results from test to start working.

i think youd probably be better off taking dbol or just test by itself.

if your gonna run it though, id probably say run it for no longer than 6 weeks.

start 40mg off for the first 3 weeks, then 60mg on the last 3 weeks, BEWARE though that tbol is highly liver toxic just as dbol is so make sure you got ya liver supps to hand.

[shm772]

Originally Posted by andysutils

not a lot and it takes a good while to see proper results from tbol anyway and even then the gains aint that good
it takes about 4-5 weeks for big results to start coming on from the tbol, thats the time it takes for the results from test to start working.

i think youd probably be better off taking dbol or just test by itself.

if your gonna run it though, id probably say run it for no longer than 6 weeks.

start 40mg off for the first 3 weeks, then 60mg on the last 3 weeks, BEWARE though that tbol is highly liver toxic just as dbol is so make sure you got ya liver supps to hand.

thanks I do have milk thistle. anything else ? Perhaps i will just get rid ot the T-bol. and go with D-bol. better and quicker results, correct?

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by shm772

thanks I do have milk thistle. anything else ? Perhaps i will just get rid ot the T-bol. and go with D-bol. better and quicker results, correct?

yes, start 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks of your cycle and no more, if it was me, id ditch the EQ and the orals and just go with test alone on a first cycle but hey, everyones different.

im not sure about what liv supps or dosages are recomended as i dont do orals anymore

[shm772]

Originally Posted by andysutils

yes, start 30mg a day for the first 4 weeks of your cycle and no more, if it was me, id ditch the EQ and the orals and just go with test alone on a first cycle but hey, everyones different.

im not sure about what liv supps or dosages are recomended as i dont do orals anymore

I have done 3 cycles of test alone now. First was Test E, then cyp, then sust. I wanted to try somethin different. .I do like the results of test only. I read the EQ would give me a harder look and good strength gains. I wont use Dbol and EQ together. I also have some anavar for a rainy day but been holdin off. my goals are a more defined harder look . more chisled than big and puffy. I've switched my diet to low carb for 5 1/2 days then lo0ad up on carbs for a day and a half. see how it goes. Any suggestions?

[andysutils]

sorry, got consufed with the title of another thread i was in before this one
my bad

[dougdr]

if your looking for a harder leaner look go with 60 mg a day of t-bol for six weeks for me strength gains were insane then run 60 mg of var for the weeks 8-14 test and eq will still be in your system but make sure your easy on the liver and take your thistle.diet is still number one when wanting to look lean and the var will give you that hard look.

[andysutils]

there is one advantage of tbol over dbol, you keep moer of the gains and theres little to no water retention with tbol either.

either run dbol at 30mg a day for 4 week or 60mg tbol for no longer than 6 weeks

[elgaringo]

Originally Posted by andysutils

there is one advantage of tbol over dbol, you keep moer of the gains and theres little to no water retention with tbol either.

either run dbol at 30mg a day for 4 week or 60mg tbol for no longer than 6 weeks

didnt you mean that the other way around 30mg for 6 weeks or 60mg for 4 weeks?

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by elgaringo

didnt you mean that the other way around 30mg for 6 weeks or 60mg for 4 weeks?

oops my bad

[shm772]

Originally Posted by elgaringo

didnt you mean that the other way around 30mg for 6 weeks or 60mg for 4 weeks?

now do i split that up or take all at once? when in the day?

[dougdr]

split it up just like d-bol i do 2o mg when i wake 5am 20 mg an hour before the gym 5pm and 20 mg before bed about 1030pm

[dougdr]

ohhh and not sure how much it helps but seems to help me take it with grapefruit juice. i have heard mixed reviews on this subject

[shm772]

thank you. shoulder surgery tomorrow (7/24) so a few weeks of no gym. I'm going to fatten up so when i do get back I'll have somethin to work for